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Mediatek Boasts True Octa-core MT6592, and GTS big.LITTLE MT8135 SoCs

We already knew Mediatek was working on MT6592, an Octa-core Cortex A7 processor for smartphones, and MT8135, a quad core bit.LITTLE processor for tablets, but in the last few days, the company revealed a bit more information about its two new application processors, mainly to show how better there are compared to the competition.

Mediatek MT6592 Octa-core Cortex A7

With Exynos Octa (5410), Samsung was the first company to release an ARM powered Octa-core application processor, but Meditak explains their solution is better because MT6592 can use all 8 cores simultaneously whereas Exynos 5410 is limited to 4 at at time, and the claim is true because Samsung big.LITTLE implementation choice.

ARM_Octa-core_Comparison

Exynos 5420 will change that however, as soon as this month, but Mediatek obviously did not feel necessary to mention this details.

The company expected those 8 cores to improve current applications such as :

  • Advanced web browsing – Ability to allocate individual browser tabs to CPU cores to improve loading times.
  • Smoother user interfaces – Ability to delegate user inputs to individual cores and render 3D effects more smoothly, the functionality and appearance of user interfaces in both applications and operating systems are significantly enhanced. (Cnxsoft: Google has also added multicore rendering in Android 4.3, so the latest version of Android should do better with more cores than older versions.)
  • Improved gaming experiences – Multi-threaded programming deployed in the MediaTek True Octa-Core SoC, enables different sequences to be allocated to different cores, delivering enhanced video frame-rate processing and low-latency gaming experiences. (cnxsoft: I have yet to see a game using more than core… but I haven’t tried that many games…)
  • Efficient video playback – When on decoding mode, the battery used for decoding HEVC (H.265) FHD video can be reduced by up to 18 percent compared to current quad-core solutions. While on display mode, MediaTek True Octa-Core provides users 20 percent more frames. This is for software decode.
    Quad_vs_Octa_Core_Performance_Power_Comparison

The company provided a somewhat interested chart showing desktop application were only supporting single core operating in 2010, moving to support dual, quad and even octa cores support in 2013, and that many mobile applications are expected to support up to 8 or more cores in 2014 and beyond

Software_Evolution_Multicore_2010_2014

MT6592 eight cores will be clocked at 2.0 GHz, be combined with PowerVR Series 6 GPU (SGX6XX) and 3G modem. The SoC will also support 1080p video playback and displays, 13MP cameras, and become available in Q4 2013 for about $20 in quantities.

Mediatek MT8135 Quad Core big.LITTLE SoC

Mediatek appears to take another stab Samsung, with the latter botched big.LITTLE implementation in Exynos 5410 that only supports Cluster migration, as Mediatek MT8135 will feature 2x Cortex A15, 2x Cortex A7 supporting Heterogeneous Multi-Processing (HMP), now renamed to Global Task Scheduling (GTS) by ARM.

Mediatek_MT8135_HMP_GTS_Implementation

Contrary to cluster migration or CPU migration, GTS implementation allows all cores in big.LITTLE SoCs to be used simultaneously. The simple tasks are sent to individual LITTLE core(s) (Cortex A7 here), whereas more demanding tasks are sent to individual big core(s) (e.g. Cortex A15), or if maximum power is required all cores can be fired up.

The company compared their MT8135 reference tablet with competing tablets.

MT8135 Reference Tablet Nexus 10 (Exynos 5 Dual, 1.7GHz dual A15) ASUS tablet (Tegra 3, 1.4GHz quad-A9)
Geekbench v2.4.3 2895 2530 1295
GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt On-screen / Off-screen (fps) 47 / 46 28 / 40 14 / 10
Vellamo 2755 1757 1295
AnTuTu v3.0.1 23557 12915 11352

Table Source: Engadget

Geekbench probably only used the 2 Cortex A15 cores, as the difference with Exynos 5 Dual can just be explained with the CPU clock difference (2.0 GHz vs 1.7Ghz), so in this test, I assume the Cortex A7 were not used.

Mediatek reference tablet is smaller than the other tablet tested, which is fine, but if the resolution is different the results cannot actually be used to compare anything… GLBenchmark 2.5 offscreen, is always using 1080p (AFAIK), so it may provide a reliable comparison, and shows PowerVR SG6200 GPU provide slightly better results than Mali T-604 GPU (About 15%). Vellamo and Antutu 3.0.1 scores are much better for Mediatek tablet, but I believe it may be due to the lower resolution in the reference tablet, and the actual CPU/GPU performance gain is likely to be just around 20%, not the nearly 100% shown in Antutu. If Mediatek had provided the resolution of their tablet, we would not have to guess… Rookie mistake, if you ask me ;)

Mediatek_MT8135_Block_Diagram

Mediatek MT8135 Block Diagram

MT8135 CPU cores will be clocked at 1.5 to 2.0 GHz, and be paired with PowerVR G6200 GPU, without modem, and become available in Q3 2013 for $15 or more in quantities.

Thanks to David for the tip.

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  1. July 29th, 2013 at 19:39 | #1

    I will waiting for this SoC MT8135 DevBoard !
    I planned make on this KVM for ARMs (http://systems.cs.columbia.edu/projects/kvm-arm/)

    P.

  2. July 29th, 2013 at 19:50 | #2

    @ch0mik
    I’ve never seen Mediatek work with anything else than smartphones and tablets manufacturers, so getting an MT8135 dev board might be challenging unless you work for one of these.

  3. July 29th, 2013 at 19:58 | #3

    @ch0mik
    I’d just like to add if you need to try KVM on ARM, Linaro has ported KVM to ARM and provided instructions for the Arndale board: https://wiki.linaro.org/LEG/Engineering/Kernel/KVM

    If you work as an individual, bear in mind that many people have complained they don’t get any support for the Arndale board, and the forum is basically dead indeed, and unmaintained (full of spam). http://forum.insignal.co.kr/viewforum.php?f=10&sid=07513450a0e5a34bcc5f7ac386e8381f

  4. onebir
    July 29th, 2013 at 20:48 | #4

    @cnxsoft
    So, re MTK8315′s Antutu score, two A15 cores at 2.0GHz is ~ 33% faster than RK3188′s 4 A9 cores at ~1.8GHz?? Or is this a comparison the ref tablet resolution issue mentioned could be distorting?

  5. onebir
    July 29th, 2013 at 20:50 | #5

    @onebir
    Oops, looks like it is…

  6. davidlt
    July 29th, 2013 at 21:40 | #6

    @cnxsoft
    I am actually afraid that we won’t see Arndale Octa board and even if it’s released it would be 5410. I want GTS and all 8 cores running. I use all my ARM machines for building RPMs, more power is needed. If you would look into hardkernel (think ODROID) repository you might notice that hardkernel pushed 3.11 kernel branch (and later deleted it). One of the interesting commits:
    Add initial device tree nodes for EXYNOS5410 SoC and ODROID-XU board.
    Add the required pin configuration support to EXYNOS5410
    using pinctrl interface.

  7. davidlt
    July 29th, 2013 at 21:42 | #7

    @davidlt
    Forgot.
    “Hardkernel’s Odroid-xu based SAMSUNG EXYNOS5410 SoC device tree source”
    commit: https://github.com/hardkernel/linux/commit/2dbcf49865dbec2c92db1c41231854a60a07ce4c

  8. July 30th, 2013 at 01:25 | #8

    Hello from Vienna,

    How long will it take until we get
    a small developer board with this kind of chip ?
    In the meantime we play around with whats available.
    Have a look on my blog about ARM based computers and boards which run Linux.
    http://bitkistl.blogspot.co.at/

    Best Regards,
    Peter Bauer

  1. June 17th, 2014 at 07:15 | #1