(Some) TP-Link routers enable hidden networks by default. Is that an issue?

There are plenty of security issues with many routers including firmware that is seldom upgraded, opened (telnet) port with the default password, and the list could go on. But Jahed Ahmed recently wrote about an issue I had not heard of before: his TP-Link router shows two hidden networks in 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands that he only discovered after running WiFi Analyzer on his phone.

He did not enable those networks, so that was the default configuration from the firmware. That could potentially pose a security risk, contributes to WiFi spam, and Jahed also mentions a waste of energy although the extra power consumption is probably limited, even when scaled to millions of users. So why is TP-Link doing this? Apparently for their OneMesh mesh wireless network system and device including range and powerline extenders that users may want to use.

TP-Link Hidden Networks Onemesh

Other users have been reporting this issue on TP-Link Archer routers at least since 2019. TP-Link has not upgraded all routers, but says there’s nothing to worry about:

Just like the existing Deco mesh package products, the specific hidden network with high-intensity random password can guarantee the security of the network. So no worries.

and still offers a solution for users wanting to disable OneMesh with new firmware adding an option to disable OneMesh, albeit some models, like Archer C6 and A7, only have beta firmware. That’s just another reason to purchase a router that is compatible with OpenWrt, and many of those Archer routers are not…

But why does TP-Link need those hidden networks in the first place? Hacker News’ user m45t3r  provides a possible explanation and why it may not be such a big issue:

…this hidden network probably uses another protocol (for the OneMesh). It is the 802.11s, that uses its own encryption method based on Simultaneous Authentication of Equals (SAE) (yeah, that is the same as WPA3, however it came before it). It shows as hidden network on Wi-Fi Analyzer, but the network is not actually hidden in the same sense of a hidden Wi-Fi network: this simple happens because 802.11s has no concept of SSID.

The authentication of new devices happens when you pair a new router using the application available on Android/iOS (it has a web interface too but AFAIK it doesn’t allow adding new mesh routers to the network). So it seems pretty secure for me, at least sans some security bugs that I am sure that the device should have. Doesn’t bother me too much considering that most bugs that I saw on those consumer routers generally comes from the security from things like administration pages and not the Wi-Fi network itself (unless it is something like KRACK that affects all devices implementing the protocol).

Yeah, it is still pretty sh*t that they enable this by default, but if the router from the author of blog post is from one of their lines of mesh routers I do think this is kinda of made by purpose, because using multiple routers devices is kinda of the idea of a mesh network.

It should be noted that 802.11s is older and different from Wi-Fi EasyMesh announced in 2018, even though both target mesh networking. You’ll find a short comparison on Stack Exchange between the two.

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TLS
TLS
6 months ago

TP-Link devices, should imho, never be connected to the internet. They have terrible support and as someone that have bought two of their products, just to get two firmware updates before they moved to a new hardware revision and dropping the older products like a hot potato, I wouldn’t recommend anyone to buy their routers. My range extender started to play up after a couple of years, as it would randomly power down the WiFi or it would drop the connection to the AP it was connected to. Both products were given new life with an installation of OpenWRT and… Read more »

WRT
WRT
6 months ago

A few years ago I bought a TP-Link router to put OpenWRT on.
There was even a backdoor in the original FW (AFAIR).

Milkboy
Milkboy
6 months ago

All router manufacturers should have to provide at least, quarterly security updates for every product

All router premium device have semi regular(once or twice a year) FW update.
I have the TP Link C5400X Work now, before i have that Xiaomi R1D, and b4 that Belkin AC1200 DB, with a few cheap mixed-brand APs router.
AFAIK, its the same for other manufacturer, only their premium router get regular updates.

Premium HW cost include FW updates.
Cheap ones dont.

Jens Bauer
Jens Bauer
6 months ago

Yep. Backdoor is you type a too long password and you’re in.

Daniel D.
Daniel D.
6 months ago

IMHO, a Merlin supported Asus router might also be a good alternative. Even though Asus have their skeletons too…

TLS
TLS
6 months ago

Oh for sure, I simply don’t own one, but Merlin is doing a great job.

H.G. Shepherd
H.G. Shepherd
6 months ago

Simplest solution is to reflash with dd-wrt. I’ve got four TP-Link routers around the house and no hidden netowrks.

Codrut R
Codrut R
6 months ago

so i had ~15 741 series wireless routers from tplink, all firmware with version 7 . after like, 2 years, all stopped functioning – bad/no routing, etc. checked mb capacitors, checked power source… nothing! resetting them was a short-term solution, but problems still appears after few hours. seemed that flash was the culprit, so i binned them at once, also all newer models inside my network,

William Barath
6 months ago

The Asus routers with Merlin really are a pleasure to use. I don’t own any, but I admin a couple of them for a local business and if I was starting over from scratch I would go that route. I’ve also heard very good things about Buffalo/Tomato. I fell out of love with LinkSys when I found LinkSys branded products with Belkin hardware and the Cisco branding on the box as well. WTF… Belkin was junk, LinkSys was premium, Cisco/Juniper was supposed to be the uber-premium, yet that badge was on Belkin POS hardware. Bye-Bye. After 12 years with LinkSys,… Read more »

johnG
johnG
6 months ago

Orbi routers have “hidden” networks as well. This is normal for mesh routers not a conspiracy.

Hugh
Hugh
6 months ago

I’m too lazy to check again, but I want to use OpenWRT but few or no reasonable current routers support it.

Merline and ddwrt are not really open source.

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