72.90 USD AK802 Android Mini PC with AllWinner A10 and 1GB RAM

Orange Pi Development Boards

No, it’s not a typo in the title, and I did not mean to write “MK802”, but a company (which does not appear to be Rikomagic) released a product called AK802 which looks very similar (not to say exactly) the same, but comes with 1GB by default.

AK802 AllWinner A10 mini PC
AK802 Android Network Media Player

Here are the specifications of the device partially taken from Dealextreme, so there must be an error somewhere, we just need to find out where ;).

CPU AllWinner A10 @ 1.5GHz + Mali 400 GPU
Memory 1 GB RAM
Storage 4 GB Flash
microSD slot (Up to 32 GB)
Connectivity WiFi 802.11b/g
USB micro USB 2.0/OTG port
USB 2.0 Host port
Video output HDMI (up to 2160p)
Video Codecs & Containers WMV, ASF, MP4, 3GP, 3G2M4V, AVI, MJPEG, RV10, DivX/VC-1, MPEG-2,
MPEG-4, H.263, H.264/1280*720P HD 30 fps, 1080P/720*480 D1 30fps
Audio Codecs AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, AMR-NB, AMR-WB, QCP, MP3, WMA, WAV, MIDI, M4A
Subtitle Subrip (.srt)
Operating System Android 4.0 (ICS)
Power Input 5V/2A
Size 8.9*3.4*1.2cm
Weight 27g

Since it’s based on AllWinner A10, you’ll be able to tinker with it, and install Ubuntu or Debian, use it as a server, build your own Android distribution (CyanogenMod), use it as a digital signage, and even install XBMC eventually. I don’t think I need to write much more about this, simply read MK802 Android 4.0 Mini PC page for details.

It’s slightly cheaper than MK802, with more system memory (1GB vs 512 MB), and available on Dealextreme for 72.90 USD (Black) or 73.10 USD (white) including international shipping.

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10Watts! Or is 2A the power supply rating?

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@ cnxsoft
Hi cnxsoft
can you plz modify your build scripts to support MX/XX/??X802 devices πŸ™‚
kernel always crash if I use same A1000 server image.
I can post you kernel booting dump dump if you want

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And one more think
don’t wast you time with mali400 x.org drivers
I own snowball http://igloocommunity.org/
It has working EGL/openGL on x.org and it is so slow. x.org process take 80% cpu time if I play video on fullscreen
I would try wayland or pure EGL/openGL to framebuffer
but it need recompile mali drivers original DDK.
But I don’t know anybody who have source codes

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@ cnxsoft
Sorry I mean it little different.
software video decoding(totem+gstreamer) toke 30% cpu time on my snowball board.
Scene composnition x.org + unity take 80%
But problem is that unity3d(it was not optimalized for gpu. look at desktop) do a lot of opengl calls that is not ok with mali 400 gpu.
Let say on desktop computer gpu drivers collect all opengl draw calls and pack it and optimalize.

I did some benchmarks
I run glmark2-es2 to render output to offload texture. glmark2-es took 15% cpu time and most time 120fps
I really good FPS. Not as good as on my desktop nvidia πŸ™‚
But after I start glmark2-es to render on screen x.org+compiz cca 80% cpu time and glmark fps at 25fps

Some guys on snowball IRC talk about this problem and it is problem on mali400 x.org drivers.
TI SGX do much better work (pandaboard, beagleboard).

I don’t want to say that mali is bad gpu. I want to say unity is really shit. I do opengl couple years on embeded and it is crazy what you can do if you do it proper way. But unity and x.org is stuff for desktop. They never optimalize if it is not important.

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“Here are the specifications of the device partially taken from Dealextreme, so there must be an error somewhere, we just need to find out where.”
πŸ˜€ Maybe it’s the letter A πŸ˜‰

Does it have the same power supply shortcuts as the MK802?

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cnxsoft :@ misko Thanks for detailed answer, and sorry to have misunderstood your first message. Now if I move the mouse in Ubuntu 12.04 (Mele) over the left bar, I get 100% CPU usage and the cursor gets very choppy because of compiz, so even if Mali-400 X11 support is not as good as we could expect, hopefully, that will make Ubuntu + Unity3D usable.Are you subscribed to arm-netbook mailing list? You may want to give them your feedback, and see if they’d consider using wayland instead of x. AllWinner (Tom Cubie) is on the mailing list, and they apparently paid ARM for support with Mali-400.

I will do it

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cnxsoft :@ misko Great! That means nothing is wrong! It’s just the hardware configuration is different between MK802 and Mele A1000. So I would just need your evb.bin to add mk802.fex (text version of your evb.bin) to https://github.com/cnxsoft/a10-config/tree/master/script.fex. Can you send it to me or provide a link ?

here is it
https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2/topics/82

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cnxsoft :@ misko Thanks, I added mk802.fex to a10-config in github.Maybe I misunderstood your message (again), when you said it works when you replace script.bin by evb.bin (mk802) in my server image. I’ve told your solution to other people, and it did not seem to work for them: https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/46#issuecomment-6900968

Just change of script.bin by evb.bin didn’t help sorry πŸ™‚

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I found one nice stuff in linaro kernel.
But I hope you will know how we can enable this in a10 kernel.
Maybe it is not related to kernel config.

uboot + kernel boot output show on UART but after kernel boot done I can log in with UART.
It will be fine on Mx802 as it has only wifi.
I can do some basic setup over console on my snowball (get current ip address).
I just bought rasbery pi and raspberry debian don’t have it too

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cnxsoft :@ misko You can connect the UART to the Mele A1000 or MK802, but I guess you have done this already since you could provide the kernel log.If you want to add login in UART, you can try to modify /etc/inittab.

But all your build scripts are base on linaro files.
That means inittab should be same.
Or some people from snowball made some changes, because they use same linaro sw package as you for A1000

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cnxsoft :

misko :But all your build scripts are base on linaro files. That means inittab should be same. Or some people from snowball made some changes, because they use same linaro sw package as you for A1000

You could compare your inittab on both board. Snowball must have an initramfs, which the image does not have yet. Peter is working on that (http://www.j1nx.nl/2012/07/12/linaro-build-quick-update/), and I may have a try if I can find the motivation to do it…

What do you expected from you A1000 ??
Some kind of media center?? that is reason why I bought my MX802 πŸ™‚
Lets be ones you didn’t expect desktop stile experience from A1000. Firefox/Chrome is useless on this kind of devices

I have idea how we can make media center from A1000.
do you know qtmediahub ?? it is/was nokia qt demo aplication.
And this guys made theme that looks exactly like XBMC πŸ™‚
But we need 2 thinks. Mali400 drivers with rendering to framebuffer.
No x11 and build qt5.
But I have only one problem a that is mali drivers πŸ™

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