I’ve previously covered several Chinese Wi-Fi smart sockets including Broadlink SP2 also supporting power monitoring, and Kankun KK-SP3, a cheaper, more basic version that can only be turned on and off manually or via timers, and which runs OpenWRT. These plugs have one thing in common: they only come with Australian/Chinese plugs, so if you want to use them in Europe, the US, or United Kingdom, you’ll need an adapter, which may not the the safest things to do, and it’s also inconvenient. Orvibo Wiwo S20 is another model that appears to have the capabilities and a price similar to Broadlink SP2, but available in four flavors with US, EU, UK, and AU plug types.
Orvibo Wiwo S20 is made of fireproof ABS, and is significantly smaller than Broadlink SP2, but the rest of the specifications are very similar:
- Material – ABC 94V-0 (fireproof)
- Wi-Fi
- 802.11 b/g/n
- Security – WEP, WPA-PSK or WPA2-PSK
- Power Plug – US, Europe, United Kingdom or Australia plug
- Output Current – 10A
- Output Power – 2000W max.
- Voltage Range – 100-240V AC
- Power Consumption – ≤0.3W
- Dimensions – 10.3 cm x 6.3 cm x 3.7 cm
- Temperature Range – -20 C to 60 C
- Relative Humidity – ≤80%
- Weight – 110 grams
This smart socket comes with a user’s manual in English. The “WiWo” app to connect to your Wi-Fi router, control the device, set timers, scenes, etc.. is available for Android and iOS 5.0+. However, I can’t see any screenshots related to power monitoring, and after installing the Android app, I can’t find any instructions about it either. So “power indicator for your energy tracking” must be there is a LED showing if the device is in use or not… You can control up to 150 socket with your smartphone, and up to 20 mobile devices can control one socket…
I initially found out about the socket via GeekBuying, where it can be purchased for $38.99, and you can select the different plug type by changing the “color”. I could also find it on Aliexpress, where Orvibo has setup their own shop, and sell the devices for about $30 excluding shipping. You can also checkout Orvibo website for more details (I need a proxy to access the site).
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When you say “another model that appears to have the capabilities”, do you mean that openwrt can be run on it?
@e
Sorry, maybe the post is not enterly clear.
* Broadlink SP2 supports power monitoring
* KK-SP3 runs OpenWRT
So when I say WiWo is similar to Broadlink SP2, I mean it looks like it also support power monitoring from the specs… However, as I say latter it’s not shown in the specs.. I have not idea which OS, if any, runs in the WiWo socket.
the EU version I hope it’s a fake…’cause 10A without the third pole (Earth) on the plug/socket is a HIGH RISK for safety.
It’s nice that the Chinese chose to use our plug, but why did they have to turn it upside down?!?
@Ian Tester
Different hemispheres? 😉
I just thought Australian and Chinese plug were identical actually, but there are some small differences…
Wikipedia:
“The Chinese CPCS-CCC (Chinese 10 A/250 V) plugs and sockets are almost identical, differing by only 1mm longer pins and installed “upside down”. Note that whilst AS 3112 plugs will physically connect, they may not be electrically compatible to the Chinese 220 V standards.”
What is that (optional?) black control orb thing that can be purchased wih the socket? It’s an additional $37, but is it just a wifi extender/router?
@ben
That explains why I could see a remote control in WiWo app. That’s a Wi-Fi / Infrared gateway to control your aircon, TV, and other equipment capable with an IR remote control, from your smartphone.
I’ve seen Broadlink has such device too.
Update: it also supports 433 MHz RF.
@Jibril
And illegal. This plug can only handle up to 2.5A.
@Jibril
I also wonder, how they got the CE license then. Must be fake. Upon import, it can happen, that all goes back to sender. Also, I find the price to be just too high. At least not for a faked version, without any serious software (linux, anyone?)
infact, as mentioned onto their official site, the S20 and other products are SAA and ROHS approved only.
CE (note the similar shape of the symbol) is refered to China Export … that always is confused with real CE mark (European Conformity).
I’ve checked with GeekBuying about the power monitoring function:
“I confirm with factory, the s20 don’t have the function they describe,
it’s a shame, i have removed that function, and factory said their new
products will have such function.”
Have you had a chance to get hands on experience with the product?
@Robin
I haven’t. It’s nice they provide different plugs, but now I find the price is a little on the high side compared to the competition since there’s no power monitoring support…
Just read the comments above. With regard to the Orvibo S20 not being CE approved, I can confirm that it is CE approved. Its compliant with 2 seperate H & S criterias and several EMC and Radio Spectrum article standards. It is compliant with all current directives that apply to it. Jibril is correct in his observation concerning the Orvibo website showing the SAA and ROHS approvals only. Its a case of Orvibo failing to update their website. I will raise this with them.
I am about to start the beta testing for their latest App, I will check the viability and feasibility of energy monitoring.
@Majid
Are you sure that CE test are done correctly ?
If Orvibo Wiwo S20 permit an Output Current – 10A (Output Power – 2000W max), is not possible without the third pole (Earth) on the EU plug/socket.
This 2 poles plug/socket can only handle up to 2.5A current…(Type C CEE 7/16 safety rules).
With this EU configuration (2 poles) it must used ONLY for Class 2 double insulation devices (concentric squares symbol) with 2,5 A max absorption.
The S20 is CE certified. I have a copy of the certification. I agree that the sockets for EU usage should only be used for low wattage or high power ( up to 2000 watts ) devices if they are double insulated. Typical high power devices which are double insulated are coffee machines, hair dryers and high power drills which have a plastic casing. Many appliances used in the EU only have 2 pins. The safety is not compromised as they are double insulated.
Any EU device with a schuko plug ( F Type ) should not be used with this socket. All other standard 2 pin factory supplied devices can be used safely.
For those interested in controlling this device from a PC or including it in some sort of automation scheme from an Android Device using Tasker, it is quite easy to take control of the switch via UDP packets. See https://discuss.ninjablocks.com/t/aldi-remote-controlled-power-points-5-july-2014/1793 and http://pastebin.com/0w8N7AJD for details.
I got a UK socket and took it apart.
Some photos are here: https://sites.google.com/site/orvibos20/hardware
It has a third-pin on the UK model at least – nice chunky traces. tl;dr on the networking side – hardly any ports open. Looks like it does not have a mini-linux computer and is probably just a little micro-controller based system rather than a mini-linux.
As Thomas suggested (although, I started earlier than he suggested) I’m writing a small program with Qt5 (console for now) on GNU/Linux to control this socket according to these instructions: http://pastebin.com/LfUhsbcS
And if I’m successful maybe try to do some more reverse engineering…
I have a problem with 3g, works very bad, in home wifi works great.
@Antonio Silva
Set up port forwarding, I guess…
By the way, if anybody is interested in my (still very WIP) code for Orvibo S20, you can try
https://stikonas.eu/gitweb/?p=s20.git;a=summary
@Andrius
Andrius How to do it
@Antonio Silva
Can you login to you router settings? Point your browser to your home router (usually something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1). Then find port forwarding somewhere there and make sure port 10000 is forwarded to the IP address of your socket.
Sorry, all instructions slightly depend on the model of the router, so I can’t write anything more precise. But try to google for more instructions…
thank you
installed again and it works 80% of the time
the router is Thomson TG787
There is some tutorial on youtube for your router: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DodWOqe3Eow
(you need to forward UDP port number 10000). This might help you get higher working percentage. Although, 80% time is already good, so maybe you can ignore this advice…
What I do to get 100% is simply run a small mini server (like Raspberry Pi or something similar, I actually have Odroid-U2) at home and control the socket through that server with the app that I wrote by reverse engineering. Of course, it requires you to have some server at home but then I can use it for many other things too (my own website, email, etc…).
@Andrius thanks for valuable information on the control! Do you know if the plug automatically update a dynDNS record when your home IP changes? When does it update this dynDNS?
Thanks
@Sylvain Paris
No idea. My router is always on, so home IP never changes. And it my router reboots, it is still fast enough and IP is left unchanged.
@Andrius
On the second thought, I don’t thing it can update dyndns record. I suspect that both the socket and the app communicates with vicenter.orvibo.com and then remote server matches the device by MAC address…
Ok, I wrote some more details in https://stikonas.eu/wordpress/?p=56 You can ask me there instead…
Hello!
I see it’s work with iOS, and android.
Somebody can tell to me it’s work with windows phone? ( Lumia 535 )
Thank you!
@Andrius
Hi Andrius, can you tell me how to access my s20 plugs using the wiwo app from an external internet connection? I cant find any way of finding each plugs I.P address for porting on 10000. I hope you can help me, its driving me mad! Thanks, Mark.
Hi Andrius, I hope you don’t mind me contacting you… I have set up the S20 plugs (5 so far in my house) they work faultlessly on my home wifi network. The problem is I can not connect to them from an external internet connection away from my home. Please can you tell me how to access my S20 plugs using the wiwo app from an external internet connection? I cant find any way of finding each plugs I.P. address for porting on 10000. I hope you can help me, its driving me mad! I have a Netgear super hub 2 router. Thank you in advance, Mark.
$22 here:
http://dynamic.focalprice.com/HT0241W/Orvibo_S20_Smart_Wi_Fi_Wall_Mounted_Socket_US_Plug_White.html
The advertising images and Andrius above suggest that this device works through a cloud server. Assuming that the case, and with no mention of port forwarding in any of the documentation it certainly seems so, there is no need to do any setup in most home routers.
Once the plug has been set up by being given the home WiFi SSID and password through the app it will “phone home” to the cloud server and wait for any incoming commands. The phone app will communicate with the cloud server to pass any commands. The most likely identifier will be the device MAC and as they are unique to each device only you will be able to control your device(s).
If it fails the most likely reasons will be a failure to correctly connect it to the home WiFi or the cloud server itself being down.
This is a superb little unit!
I had previously bought a cheap Chinese device from eBay costing around £13 only to find, when it was delivered a couple of weeks later, that it had a UK 3-pin socket as displayed in the seller’s picture but the Chinese flat 3-pin plug on the other side, hence totally useless for use in the UK – and illegal for it to be supplied as such. A waste of money and I’ve initiated a return via the eBay “not as dscribed” consumer policy.
So I bought the Orvibo unit, about £20, and when it arrived I found that it was well-made, and exceeded my expectations. I can confirm that the UK device (and so, I assume, will all the other models…) can be operated by the app from a device with a data connection to the Internet, and – even better from my point of view – the app will display the new “state” by explicit confirmation from the device, not just because the change of state has been requested, because UDP packets are being exchanged via the user’s home network and Internet connection.
Moral – Buy this, not cheaper unbranded Chinese equivalents!
Just one “minus” – the configuration of the unit is very temperamental and I have a suspicion that “factory reset” (turning the power to the unit on with the button held down) does not work reliably. Also, if the unit is “locked” with a password different from the default “888888”, that is NOT reset… if you forget this, you cannot reset it!
$18 on Banggood -> http://www.banggood.com/WiWo-S20-Wi-Fi-Smart-Remote-Control-Timing-Socket-USEU-Plug-p-953743.html
Hi William, Would you mind telling me how you got this plug to work over the internet?
Mine is now working on my local network but there are no instructions on how to connect via the Internet.
Many thanks,
Allen@William Old
@Allen
It should just work with the WiWo app. This part is not yet reverse engineered (local networks is of course a priority), so official app is the only way.
Btw, as @William Old says, factory reset might be a bit unreliable (not too often, usually it works). But I think remote password is SET to 888888 on factory reset.
I have created a Windows app to control the S20. Features include:
– Register an Unlimited number of S20 devices to be controlled (well, limited to the number of DHCP addresses you have available on your network, so ensure DHCP is switch on and you have some available).
– Fully automatic, making it very simple and user friendly.
– At the push of a single button the app will find and register the device on your network. No need to know IPAddresses or MacAddresses of the devices, all you will be asked to do is enter your network password and to name the Device if found (for example “Main Controller”).
– Create an unlimited number of schedules for each device. Set time, days and trigger On/Off.
– Natively control your S20’s from within a Vixen 3 Sequence. See instructions in S20 App or video below.
– Not sure about other sequencers, however if the sequencer is capable of adding a Command Line effect to the sequence then it will be able to control your S20’s.
– You will need to have this app running for the devices to be automatically controlled, either by Schedule or by your Sequencer. (Note: You could add another command line in your sequence to start this app first.)
– If the S20 is issued a new IP from DHCP there is no need to re-register as my app will automatically update IPAddresses when required.
– Any changes are automatically saved.
– Using remote desktop, the S20 can be controlled to allow any changes while your away from home.
The app will be release soon and posted on the Christmas forum http://auschristmaslighting.com/forums/index.php?topic=7608.msg68473#msg68473
@Mark
Thanks Mark for explaining how the device doesn’t need to perform port forwarding.
But i still have question… since the plug is connected to the home Wifi, and the command to switch it on/off using the WiWo software is to be conveyed either over The Internet (my Wifi connected phone) or 3G/4G, then how does the smartphone connects with it?
You mentioned the MAC as the identifier, can you explain more? thank you.
@Saff
As I understand it, for the Wiwo app to remotely control your sockets, you need to register an account through the app. You do this in the app by accessing its menu then select My Account at the top of the screen. Register an email address and a password and set it to auto login. The app will associate any sockets, you have added to the app, with that account and the sockets will update the server with any change of IP address. I guess the server is matching sockets to you account using their MAC addresses.
Now when you are away, you start the app and it connects to your account (provided you are connected to the internet) and you can control your sockets.
Now $16 here:
http://www.gearbest.com/diy-parts-and-tools/pp_133575.html
This sounds very interesting, did you share the Tasker code somewhere? Just bought the device because of this post 🙂
why cant I use my s20 socket of a mobile data connection??? am I doing something wrong? everyone else seems to be able to do it. can someone please elaborate?
I have download this app wiwo for this S20 switch. It works on manual and timer real well… But, when I set up a schedule, it’s does not work… I’ve check my time zone setting which is eastern.. Any tips help?
Hi there, i have problems to conect from outside WIFI-Data connection, maybei need a portfowading info, how to editing my Router Fritzbox 7490.
Any body have ideas??
Hi Anyone give me informaton about WIWO.. I cant get it configure and it is wrecking my head.
@Geoff
what will be the name of app?
Do never purchase this unreliable device, otherwise you will get frustration to setting it up for using beyond your network. This device is intended to be modified by using uncommon way as well as programming, tasking etc….it is too difficult for most of us.
Hi,
sorry for my English.
I have used orvibo allone from few days, only yesterday night it was running well
by 3G/internet.This is my procedure…
I have restarted my modem-AP before, and after a have configured the Allone
as a wifi AP (not directly with my modem-AP). So, I have put Allone as the first on DHCP
and I have configurated a port-forwarding 10000 to its IP.
I think its not necessary make a port-forwarding for the Allone, only if you want
control this device from the LAN by other software.
I have rebooted my modem-AP two times and i have verified the IP of my Allone that
was not changed.
I think the core of solution is a configuration as AP and the type/model of your
modem-AP.
Its possible a conflict/incompatible problem with the Allone.
The User on the android-app is necessary only for backup/restore your configuration
data. So, the app anche the Allone will access to the remote server
with a secret policy and its publish a UID of Allone.
All IR codes are stored inside the app, when you push a button the sequence of ir codes
are sent from the app to the server with a UniqueID make by Allone.
Allone was always connected to the server as a http-socket, when the remote server
receive a command from the app its redirect the command to the Allone (if its connected).
Allone checks the connection some time and manage its sockets.
Thats is all.
B10
Hi friends…Good news!!!
I have received just now an email from support@orvibo.com
<>
The istruction are inside the archive file!
Bye!
B10
Hello,
It is our server lose the connection from China to Foreign, So we need to transfer your device to foreign server by upgrading firmware.
And sorry tell you that as we are on National Day until Oct 8 in China .Only when we back to company can upgrade for you.
But now I can send you a tool which can upgrade your device by yourself. you should have a windows computer and a router to do that.
Download this tool on google sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzH2z-_xxrEAbnBDdTUzeGlwWHc/view?usp=sharing
And please follow up the step of instruction document. every step should be right .
Thank you.
Hi,
Oh my god!….They are crazy!
Under “\tomcat\webapps\wifi\WEB-INF\classes\com\orvibo” there is all sw code!
Please Andrius, check this for you!
Bye.
B10
Hi B10 – have you got this upgrade procedure to work?
@Gozzie: Yes, sure! Its not very easy…But works!
I have used an old modem-ap-wifi because i did not want to change my primary modem
(it has more important configuration).
Its very import that you use an 802.1G modem, not more old!
Last days allone and the 3G app works well!
Bye.
B10
Hello Geoff, did you release your app?
Can we find it somewhere to control orvibo s20 device from windows phone?
thank you
I bought mine off of ebay 20 bucks each I use 5 and I have one left over love them.
Hello,
For those looking for full control of all your S20s through 3G or WiFi from the “outside” the LAN, without depending on the Orvibo proxies (which are most of time unavailable or slow), please take a look at the code and screenshots available at
https://github.com/fernadosilva/orvfms
This is a simple web interface that enables full control of all sockets provided that you have a http server running in the home LAN (running in a raspberry or any local computer/server). I developed this code to bypass the Orvibo infrastructure and to add one or two convenient features. The interface works OK in desktops, smartphones and tablets, provided that a fairly recent browser is available.
Rgds
I have an S20, works well just one exception: when my ADSL provider changes my IP adress, the S20 dynamic name service delays regularly more then 1 hour. After it works ok again.
Is it possible to program more frequent DNS following? Every day I can use it only 23 hours, and the most important action is often happens in the “blind” hour.
@mark
Just register an account with WiWo and then the remote access should work… at least it did for me.
@Matt
You seem like someone that knows a bit about S-20’s!? My Orivbo WIWO s-20 plugs are all configured fine in my home. But if I get a power outage they always reset to the Off position and then ignore any subsequent timer events? Can you help?
cheers
I have bought 2 x S20s thinking that they were going to be just what I was looking for. Unfortunately, they do not work outside of the network they were set up on. When I try to access the sockets Wiwo crashes and closes straight down saying “Error occurred, please restart now”. I have never once got it to work. Is it going to be updated with a versio that works?
i want become producer in India. And i am Indian how to punches all smart product and how to manufacture in india ?send reply
@bhoi bhumit
I have not any particular insights into the Indian market. If you want to manufacture in India, you’d have to find factories.
Now if you just want to distribute automation products in India, you could also import from Chinese manufacturers.
Hi all,
I saw that I configured some schedule and if the internet went down the s 20 doesn’t remember to turn the schedules on (if the Internet went down at the schedule interval)
Did someone also saw this ?
I have an 80 year old house with no upgrades. Can I use Orvibo Wiwo S20 Wi-Fi Smart Socket in my home with a fire stick and how far will the fire stick allow me to go with my TV
I am under the impression you want to use Orvibo Wiwo S20 as a WiFi extender. It is not what it is designed for. Maybe I misunderstood your question.