Idein, a Japanese startup, has been working with a Raspberry Pi compute module to create Actbulb, a multi-functional device for applications using computational sensing and data analysis, and that fits in a regular light bulb socket. But for their internal testing, they’ve decided to create a cluster for 16 Raspberry Pi Zero boards.
We are making a sensing device that uses Raspberry Pi compute module. So we need many Pi’s for the development and tests. Since we will use Pi’s GPU for image processing, deep learning, etc. We need real Pis but not just Linux machines. Another reason. It can be used for flashing eMMCs of our devices via USB ports when we have to do that by ourselves.
[Update: Since they had quite a lot of feedback, the company has now plans to integrate an Ethernet switch, add GPIO headers, etc.. and likely sell it. See new tweet]
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23 Replies to “This is What a 16 Raspberry Pi Zero Cluster Board Looks Like”
Any way of getting a raspi zero in TH ?
Also, can you tell me if there are any shops in bkk where I can get my hands on some SBCs on retail rates?
I don’t think Raspberry Pi Zero is available anywhere. Eleemnt14 even removed the listing last time I checked.
But usually I prefer buying outside of Thailand. It’s too expensive here.
But if you really want to buy locally try with Element14 (they only have Thai website, so you may need somebody to help in case you can’t read Thai).
Another relatively well know shop for boards is thaieasyelec.com. In Bangkok, maybe try Pantip not sure. I never go to Bangkok, except to the airports. I also buy products on Lazada sometimes, but again it’s often cheaper on eBay, at least for small stuffs.
Hm, this is just a board to mount 16 usb boards with breakout for usb and network.
It would have been much nicer if there was some form of interconnectivity between them (e.g. by adding a router chip that would put them all on a small local network). This way lots of additional plumbing needs to be done
FransM, you are right. This design dosn’t look like a cluster, it is a Board for 16 zeros with some support chips. Elsewhere in the works: 8/16/32 zeros connected with an intelligent USB hub (based on a 7$-FPGA, dualported ram and some 0.8$ – USB 2.0 Phys chips for the zeros and some 2.3$-USB 3.1 Phys chips )
The zero has also mount holes, so it would have been easier and cheaper to simply use those to stack the PIs. Too bad the PI zero does not seem to support ethernet over HDMI.
Since the RPi SoCs have no native Ethernet it seems they used the ‘usual’ LAN9512 (USB hub with integrated Fast Ethernet) 16 times on the board. Would’ve be a smarter move to also put something like the BCM5321M (switch IC with 16xFE and 2xGbE) on the board and another SoC acting as ‘master node’ being able to switch on/off the other nodes.
Note that the £5 pricing for the RPi Zero was a promotional offer and the actual price will be a lot higher according to people I’ve talked to at Farnell.
No Pi Zeros yet but I always find RS to be quite good in Thailand – not always the cheapest but never had any issues.
Have one here spare if you need it.
Maybe you should do a crowdfunding like setup, ie donate a Pi0 and get n% off one of these boards.
Pretty sure the robotics folks would help, a 16 node Pi0 would be one hell of an AI rig.
Thats about 20 times more processing power than a Core2 Duo for certain apps but a much lower power draw.
In what processing usecase would a Pi beat a Core2Duo (ok, maybe it would be better at decoding h.264) when it comes?
In general I somehow fail to see the point of these slow CPU clusters (unless you really want to have a physical cluster, I guess).
Yes, they must be using VideoCore IV to accelerate specific tasks. That’s called GPGPU (General Purpose GPU) computing.
They have plan to include a switch in a second revision now @ https://twitter.com/9_ties/status/691092577722863617
Where can I buy this??
You can’t. At least not for now.
They’ll do a crowdfunding campaign -> https://twitter.com/9_ties/status/691457619899232257
They finally got their 16 Raspberry Pi Zero boards @ https://twitter.com/9_ties/status/694816468475588608/photo/1
So we need many Pi’s for the development and tests. Since we will use Pi’s GPU for image processing, deep learning, etc. We need real Pis but not just Linux machines. Where such information?
In one of the comments in their twitter feed.
Is this cluster available?
They don’t seem to have launched it yet.
I’ve clearly put too much thought into this, while not having the ability to implement it in any way! 🙁
Build a Pi Zero cluster hub by combining a Microchip USB2517 7-port USB hub, with a CP2108 4-port USB UART chip.
Each Pi Zero (max 4) gets its own microUSB connector, plus a UART connected to its console. By properly implementing the USB power spec, one should be able to enable or disable power to individual Pi Zeroes, while monitoring their consoles. There is no real need for anything else, as each Pi Zero can be configured to provide USB networking or other USB features as required.
Each console UART will terminate in a 3-pin 0.1″ header adjacent to the Pi Zero, and will connect to the Pi Zero console via a short cable soldered to the Pi Zero pin header, and terminating in a suitable 0.1″ pitch female connector.
4 ports of the hub will be available for the Pi Zeroes, 1 port will be used by the USB-UART chip, and the remaining two ports can either be permanently disabled, or provided as downstream ports if desired (possibly via a simple header, as is done on PC motherboards).
Larger installations will be possible by cascading multiple carrier boards from a parent hub, e.g. a 7-port USB3 hub.
The hub board itself will have to be self-powered, and testing will be needed to determine whether the Pi Zero will fit within the 500mA limits (i.e. if over current monitoring can be enabled on the 2517 hub chip). With no additional peripherals, this may be reasonable. Each board will then require a 5V 2A supply.
It seems reasonable to connect to the upstream hub using a USB “Printer” connector, rather than microUSB, given the context.