Dual Core Rockchip RK3066 mini PC Now Available for $88.88

Yesterday, I wrote about the first proper dual core Cortex A9 mini PC based on Rockchip RK3066, but it seemed only available to wholesalers, and I was not really sure it was ready for prime time. But today, one of my reader (Anders) pointed to a vendor selling the device on Aliexpress, and I found out it was sold for the lucky price of $88.88 + shipping.

Rockchip RK3066 mini PC

The picture above (Source: Aliexpress) is the first I’ve seen that looks real, and makes me feel a bit better about this device. The specs listed in Aliexpress are basically the same as I posted yesterday, except we learn that the Wi-Fi chip is Ralink Realtek 8188, more codecs are listed (but I would not read too much into that), and the casing has gone on a diet and shrunk to 8.8 * 3.5 * 1.2cm (vs 10.1 x 3.8 x 1.3cm yesterday).

The information about accessories is very confusing. One picture seems to show a power adapter, mini USB adapter, USB cable and Male to Male HDMI cable (why?) is included, but the description indicates a USB cable and small HDMI cable is provided.

Shipping options include China Mail (~$7), Hong Kong post (~$12) and several couriers. Please note that the vendor appears to be new with only one positive rating.

[Update: It is now available for $89 including shipping via Hong Kong Post from an Aliexpress seller that looks OK. He also posted some pictures of the PCB. The product name is UG802]

If you are the kind of person who likes to tinker with your device and change the source code, bear in mind that Rockchip is known for GPL violations, and it may be hard to get the GPL source, although it does not prevent some from trying.

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Gabe
Gabe
12 years ago

I think Ralink 8188 Wi-Fi chip is actually a Realtek 8188 chip.

Kim
Kim
12 years ago

Thats a lot of holes on the case! Worried about meltdown much!?

What’s the heating status on this chip, and how much faster would it be in real terms compared to the allwimmer a10?

Why can’t someone convince the hardkernal guys to put a case around their board add $10 to the price and sell it as a system (case should have a power on off button)

max
max
12 years ago

Anyone bought this thing?
I think Christian Troy (A rom developer working on Rockchip tablets custom roms) should see this. let me ping him 🙂

Klaus
Klaus
12 years ago
menno
menno
12 years ago

Can this dongle support linux , or is there allready a linux version for this device?

LuckyKnight
LuckyKnight
12 years ago

Would like to see one with a RJ-45 ethernet!

matzon
matzon
12 years ago

@Klaus
no, the FVD-11 is amlogic and only has 512 MB ram

eebrah
eebrah
12 years ago

The aliexpress seller lists it as an “allwinner dual-core …..”
Last I checked Allwinner != Rockchip but it may just be an error
This shows that the product is less likely to be vapourware and that is a win for everyone

jamesbond
jamesbond
12 years ago

GPL violation + no kernel/uboot sources = no purchase.

Luckyknight
Luckyknight
12 years ago

Reply to earlier comment.. There is no amlogic dual core for purchase other than tablets yet

Ninjas
Ninjas
12 years ago

Hey you are right. These geniatech boxes seem to have Dual core amlogic chips in the 1200 and 1600 versions. But these seem to be in development and not relaesed yet. Don know the reputation of these boxes but there seems to be a huge thread on geniatech at android forums. Could these seem as better than the mele a#000 series? I wish some chinese oem would package a quad core samsung with a mele type case and put it on the market at $150. It would sell like crazy and not just to dev types, to everyone. If google… Read more »

max
max
12 years ago

I’ve asked this to Brad, and asking this to you too. Isn’t it strange that no Chinese blog / forum etc. covered / talked or reported on this?

Javi
12 years ago

Price:
US $108.90 / piece + shipping

CPU: AllWinner

Under my oppinion this is still very strange. And suggest again waitting for AllWinner Dual core this year (later will be the quad core it seems)

By the way, Mini-Pc in chinese: 迷你电脑

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I have found this device on aliexpress for 89.00 with free shipping
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/618712540-New-Released-MK802-Dual-Core-Mini-PC-UG802-Android-4-0-TV-Box-IPTV-1-6GHz-wholesalers.html
The link also has front and back pictures of the PCB which show it is indeed the rk3066 soc.

I’ve also been in talks with the manufacturer of this product and have a sample on it’s way to me. It should arrive late this week sometime.
It seems to hold a lot of promise and I look forward towards testing it.

Leo
Leo
12 years ago

Hi!
Togetho Team (you may know us from group-buy CX-01 and Riko MK802) launched group-buy deal for UG802 (from Ugood store). $78.99 with free WorldWide HongKongPost Shipping. If you want, you can join us here – http://togetho.ru/ug802eng.html

Leo
Leo
12 years ago


ok, I’ll ask. But I’m not sure they will do it fast.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I received my ug802 dual core stick today and I am pretty impressed. I received it in Orange coloring. The plastic feels solid and is almost the same size as my Oval Elephant(uhost). System Information: Model Number: rk30sdk Android Version: 4.0.4 Kernel Version: 3.0.8+ root@hzb-HP-MT #267 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 16 22:09:58 CST 2012 Build Number: rk30_ics_v2.23.00 rk30sdk-eng 4.0.4 IMM76D end.root.20120713.175652 test-keys I have a few observations. -First off it’s fast. Faster than my Oval Elephant(uhost) and faster than my CX-01. -It plays just about everything I’ve tried to throw at it. Including some 16GB 1080p mkv files. Over wifi.… Read more »

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I got antutu to work by plugging the ug802 into a higher power usb 3.0 source. It seems my cellphone adapter wasn’t giving out enough juice.
Anyway the score it just got is :
Total Score: 6801
CPU:3274
GPU: 1551
RAM:1239
I/O: 737

Quadrant standard starts now, but when you try to run a test it never actually runs.

The device also comes not rooted. I’ll be rooting it later of course.

sao
sao
12 years ago

@deadhp1

Thanks for the information! Please keep us informed of any news and development of this device. Here are a few points I’m particularly interested in:

(1) does the device get warm/hot under load? (e.g. HD youtube, flash, etc)

(2) read/write speed of nand/sdcard/usb thumb drive (I assume that thumb drive works)?

(3) does the usb port support host mode? (keyboard/mouse/camera/mic)

(4) do the google playstore/google apps work out of box?

(5) could you try the free app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
and see if it install (say the light-weight lxde version), and if so, is it usable?

MANY THANKS!

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I rooted my device using the info from here
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/34442-root-window-n90-dual-core-ii-how-to-root/

Superoneclick did complain and say my device was already rooted, but I had previously checked with root checker and it had said it wasn’t.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

Some answers: 1) the ug802 gets slightly warm, not nearly as hot as the mk802 or even the uhost. It’s similar to the cx-01 in terms of heat…not much at all. It seems that the rk3066 is underclocked to 1.2ghz. I was not able to raise the cpu speed past that with overclocking. The limit must be set in the kernel to prevent overheating. 2) I haven’t gotten a chance to test nand/sd/usb read or write speeds. Can you recommend an app for that? 3)I hooked up my wireless keyboard/mouse so far. Tomorrow I’ll check some other things I’ve got… Read more »

max
max
12 years ago


When are you going to review it?

@deadhp1
From where have you bought it, Please share price delivery options chosen etc.

sao
sao
12 years ago

@deadhp1

Thanks for update! I’d glad to hear about that the rk3066 does not heat up as much as the mk802. When you get a chance, could you run the rk3066 for a hour or two on a loop video and see what the temperature is like?

I’m a bit disappointed to hear that it does not recognize the lapdock’s resolution. Hopefully it will get fixed in the next firmware (?).

As for testing the speed of sdcard, you can get the free app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ales.veluscek.sdtools Off hand I don’t know how to test nand speed.

THANKS!!!

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@max
I bought mine directly from the manufacturer as a sample. I work as a part time consultant for a company that’s let’s just say is “looking to have something built”.
I’m recommending the group buy to anyone that asks me.

@sao ,
Ok in detail view for antutu I have:

/Sdcard (actually nand):
SD card write (4.4 MB/s) 44
SD card read (>50 MB/s) 204

Using an old 4gb class 10 micro sd card I get:
/mnt/external_sd
SD card write (13.9 MB/s) 139
SD card read (14.8 MB/s) 148

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@sao I’ve been running the ug802 for almost 6 hours playing movies. I watched Avatar 8gb 1080p mkv and the device was barely warm at the end. The rest of the time I’ve been using the 8-27 nightly build of XBMC to stream a playlist of avi’s off my ftp. It got a little warmer doing this as xbmc currently doesn’t have hardware decoding. Still not nearly as much heat as the mk802 or Oval Elephant. I think all the holes in the case really help with the heat. Ok I installed SD Tools and the results are: /Sdcard (nand)… Read more »

max
max
12 years ago

@deadhp1 thanks for the update. If it is running that cool then I hope someone can be able to run the CPU @1.6 GHz and GPU @400MHz then it’ll be like Chinese OUYA 🙂 I think Jellybean should be on the way, as most of the 2nd Gen RK3066 tablets are coming with Jellybean 4.1.1 like pipo u1, yuandao N90, cube UG30t etc. May be it’s just a wild wish, but since Amlogic and unofficial partner ainol had realeased the source codes for Amlogic processors, this must’ve put pressure on rockchip and it’s tablet partners to release their stuff also.… Read more »

sao
sao
12 years ago

Newbie question:

(1) How can we tell if this particular mini PC has a locked bootload and/or can boot from sdcard, given that at the moment we don’t have the original firmware, let alone alternative ROM?

(2) More generally, can we simply swap out the kernel of the exisiting firmware and subsitute for it a different one (e.g. linaro)?

Thanks for your help!

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@max It’s possible that the manufacturer may release an update to allow 1.6Ghz. It’s my understanding that they underclocked the board in order to keep both the heat and the power draw down. I’m also hoping for JellyBean, but ICS works very well on this device. Kernel Source FTW! If Rockchip would only release kernel source they could have a great product. There is currently a thread about a source code request to Cube for one of their rk3066 tablets. http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/37074-glp-sources-request-to-cube/ @sao According to the datasheet located here http://tabreview.ru/content/pdf_docs/RK3066_datasheet_brief.pdf the rk3066 supports booting from nand flash, SPI0, and eMMC intefaces.… Read more »

Jwz
Jwz
12 years ago

Is usb Gamepad supported?

Heaven
Heaven
12 years ago

Gossip news from China: Zero Devices to launch RK3066 based model with 8GB?? (and cheaper than this one)

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

@deadhp1
1) When you tested the XBMC build on UG802, how was the performance without the hardware decoding? Was it pretty smooth?

2) There is an article at http://www.cnx-software.com/tag/ug802/ about rooting the UG802. How you tried it and if so, did it work?

3) How you tried apps from the Google Store to see if it recognizes the device okay?

4) How do you like the RK3066 based UG802 so far comparing to your CX-01 and MK-802?

Thanks for writing all the information you have posted so far. Definitely very helpful.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@Giggle 1)When I tested XBMC performance was smooth on sd avi files and sd mp4 files. I watched several movies and episodes while working and did not notice any problems. Most of those were streaming over wifi. 2)I think I am the first person to root the ug802. That article is based off my comment of following those directions. Rooting was easy and basically the same as rooting a rk3066 based tablet. 3)I’ve installed many apps from the Google Store.(Launcher Pro, MX Player, ES File Explorer, Crackle TV and Movies, Speedtest.net, Antutu, Antutu CPU, SD Tools, ad blocker, and several… Read more »

max
max
12 years ago

@Heaven
This is obvious, China is not America where you patent squares, rectangles and circles or even similar looking shapes. There is definitely a similar and cheaper may be even a better version must be in the works.
That’s how they’ve created this amazing hardware manufacturing eco system. Which has grown so hardcore that now looks like its impossible to beat China in cheap electronic hardware manufacturing and reverse engineering.

Exactly the way you can’t beat America in there suing ecosystem, World’s 70% lawyer’s live in America for obvious reasons. The favorable ecosystem you know 🙂

Onebir
Onebir
12 years ago

Just searched aliexpress for “UG802”. Looks like there’s a new model or a new case design (with less holes and an droid logo :p).

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Thank you so very much for replying with so much details.
With it rooted now by you, are you able to get apps like Hulu
to recognize the device. I assume whatever default the device
is telling the Hulu app might not be on its supported list so such
apps might not work with the device.

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

@deadhp1
With the XMBC build with no hardware decoding, were you limited to 720p when you tested it?

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@Giggle with XBMC in software mode I tried a couple of 3GB 720p mkv they were not really watchable. It dropped about 5 frames a second. I did however try a mHD 720p 1.18gb 3:30 hour movie and it only really dropped a couple of frames in action scenes. I wouldn’t rely on this to playback 720p in XBMC until they get hardware decoding running. I will eventually try XBMC with Diceplayer and see how that goes. @Onebir The ug802 has a slightly newer case design now. It’s a little different from mine. Where I have a rounded section of… Read more »

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago


I have no idea! I think google controls what you are allowed to download by network location and by carrier.
In this case I have gone to the play store on my laptop went to my account, then settings.
All my devices are listed there and the ug802 comes up as
Maker :Rockchip
Model: Rk30sdk
Carrier: China Mobile
I think the carrier part is what is causing this.

I’ve attempted a couple of fixes so far, and I’ll keep trying.

Heaven
Heaven
12 years ago

Heaven :
Gossip news from China: Zero Devices to launch RK3066 based model with 8GB?? (and cheaper than this one)

Reply to myself.

Maybe today I can get a picture of BETA version.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@Heaven

It would be cool to see. Any idea if it’s just the same board with more flash? Or is it being built by another manufacturer?

Just incase anyone wanted to know I’ve now tested the ug802 with a 2.99 ebay usb ethernet adapter(works great) and with a 1tb WD external usb hard drive which also worked great.(NTFS formatted)

I still need to track down a bluetooth dongle to test with that.

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

@deadhp1
I was told the device has a custom name in the build.prop file which won’t allow Google Play app to always show the app you may be looking for.  For example, I was told the Time Warner Cable app doesn’t appear in the UG802 because it’s not a recognized device. The theory is that Hulu app has the issue. Now when it becomes rooted, one can change the product in the build.prop file and supposedly then it will work.

tuavitxinh
tuavitxinh
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Can Ug802 use web browser at 1080p? My mk802 II can use web browser at 720p only.

max
max
12 years ago

@deadhp1
you might try download this rom, and replace this part * Full market access + spoofed as SGS2 (it may help with EA and GL games)* on you UG802 http://dragondevs.com/viewtopic.php?f=164&t=405 Or may be contact the developer.
He is also in US so you might get some extra help.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@tuavitxinh
The web browser can be used at 1080p. You can set the resolution to 1080p and you can also adjust the amount of overscan.

@max
I’ll take a look and try to message the developer. I’ve been looking at a bunch of rk3066 tablet builds to see what else could be causing it.

deanme
deanme
12 years ago

I was wondering how much of an issue it is that there is no external power supply. In a living room situation it’s most likely going to be powered by your TV usb, but turning off the TV will be like pulling the plug on it every time. Perhaps with Android it doesn’t matter so much, but do you make sure to shut down android before pulling the plug each time or doesn’t it really matter?

Thanks!

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I just leave mine on most of the time. I wouldn’t plug mine into my tv’s usb, I don’t want to wait for it to boot every time I turn on the tube. I’ve been using my usb3 port on my htpc, but now I’m using a 5V/2A ipod charger. I don’t really like the current solution that most manufacturers have of killing the power with no shutdown. Most of these devices don’t have a way to shutdown safely and are begging to become corrupted. The only stick I’ve seen that even includes a software based shutdown button is the… Read more »

sao
sao
12 years ago

@deadhp1

Can you at least “shutdown” the stick using apps like quickboot (rooted required)? It didn’t work for mk802, if I understand correctly…

On a different note: If you do managed to get in touch with the developer of the rk3066 ROM mentioned a few posts earlier, could you ask if that ROM — if it works for this stick — could be modified to handle different screen resolution? I’m thinking about the problem you encountered with the lapdock (lapdock is the primary reasion I’m interested in this stick).

THANKS!

JL
JL
12 years ago

deadhp1 :I just leave mine on most of the time. I wouldn’t plug mine into my tv’s usb, I don’t want to wait for it to boot every time I turn on the tube. I’ve been using my usb3 port on my htpc, but now I’m using a 5V/2A ipod charger. I don’t really like the current solution that most manufacturers have of killing the power with no shutdown.Most of these devices don’t have a way to shutdown safely and are begging to become corrupted.The only stick I’ve seen that even includes a software based shutdown button is the Oval… Read more »

Akkietakkie
Akkietakkie
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Hi Deadhp1, thanks for all the info on the UG802. I also received a sample from UGOOS and totally agree with you, this is a swift and speedy device.
As far as rooting. I cant seem to get the device “seen” by my pc, so rooting is impossible. Can you give a bit more detailled description on the rooting process. What connectors do you use for example, do you use the ” powercable (micro usb to usb) or the host connection.. And did you activate the menu “connect to pc” in the settings as well?

Thanks

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I used the app Market Access to unlock the market today. It seems that the ug802 is identifying itself as belonging to china mobile. So I set mine to tmobile us. Now I have been able to install Hulu Plus, Netflix, and I have access to paid apps. I didn’t notice that ALL paid apps were blocked for me before this. I did mention this to the manufacturer so hopefully they will fix this in firmware, but they seem quite busy as of right now. Keep in mind that I have a pre-production sample ug802 and I know they have… Read more »

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@sao
Quickboot does work and turns the device off for a second, but then it reboots. The problem is that you have to be ready to pull the cable if you want to shut down this way because the ug802 is up and running in about 10 seconds.
It just boots too damn quick.

I’ve just been enjoying having the full market….and now I have insufficient space. If it’s not one thing it’s another!

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

@deadhp1
That’s great news. Thanks for figuring everyone out for the rest of us. I was waiting to see if you have any luck before possibly pulling the trigger on one as I have my eyes set on this device right now. So after you installed Hulu Plus, it runs okay and the app is not complaining about unsupported device? If so, that is awesome.

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

Typo. I meant “Thanks for figuring everything out for the rest of us”, including rooting.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

Ok so I managed to get a market fix to work permanently. I spent a while searching, but I found others who had this problem. That led me to the instructions from Compu_Guy which is found in the link below. http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/sylvania-tablets/27080-sytab10st-root-access-google-apps-market-3.html#post164159 Our TelephonyManager.smali files is a bit different so I’ve simply removed 2 steps and changed the number we’re looking to replace. Keep in mind that this could send you on a boot loop, brick your device, cause you to worship the sun, eat earthworms and I won’t be held responsible. First off you need to be rooted and your… Read more »

EnvyThisStuff
EnvyThisStuff
12 years ago

For those interested, we are a mini PC reseller, and expect to begin reselling this unit shortly as well. Check out our “open it out of the box” videos of this unit:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3CSjDxh4vk
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2baGH83vLi4
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WntkZB5s1NM

We should be posting some more videos as things evolve and we learn more about the unit.

sao
sao
12 years ago

Someone on the rikomagic.co.uk site — a different seller, I believe — just posted a series of unbox videos for the UG802:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WntkZB5s1NM
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2baGH83vLi4
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3CSjDxh4vk

Of particular interests (to me) is part 3 of the video, where he tries to boot an lubuntu image off the sdcard. Apparently (?) the unit recognizes the lubuntu image but in the end android got booted up.

EnvyThisStuff
EnvyThisStuff
12 years ago

@sao As I shot the video I thought it picked up lubuntu because of the penguins and there was a slight delay, but since, I’m less and less sure. The video was all ad hoc and not scripted and so in the end though it was only a try on a whim and I did not expect it to work because of the differences involved but I did it because I wanted to get any rumors squashed about the unit ASAP (there’s too many already) so that the proof as they say is in the pudding in the video. If… Read more »

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I see someone else has ordered the ugly orange color I like so much. heh
I’m not really a fan of the stock launcher. I installed Launcher Pro for a much better experience.

Mocha
Mocha
12 years ago

@EnvyThisStuff
How much will you be selling this for? I am close to ordering one so asking to see if I should hold off and wait for you or not. Will you be incorporating the google play store fix and rooting posted by deadhp1 before shipping?

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@EnvyThisStuff I really wouldn’t expect linux to show up for this device. Rockchip generally does not release it’s source code. Don’t get me wrong, I’d be thrilled, but I wouldn’t buy the ug802 expecting it to run linux. I watched your videos on my ug802. I think the speed issues have to do with your router. I didn’t have any problems with wifi speed. I’m on a fast fiber connection. With antutu overclocking you’re not able to install it because the market thinks you are in china. The max you can overclock to is 1.2ghz. It’s already set to that!… Read more »

sao
sao
12 years ago

Thanks for all the updates! I agree that we probably will never get the source of this; my hope is that the SoC has enough juice to run linux chroot and still have something useable.

Indep of all that we do need recovery, and hopefully improved firmware. A little google (rockchip + u-boot) turns up these link:

http://wenku.baidu.com/view/a6246c000740be1e650e9a2d.html (a document, in Chinese, about (and changing?) uboot for rk28** — sorry I can’t read Chinese)

http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?1053-RK2918-set-top-box-linux-installation (recovery on rk2918, NOT linux)

so hopefully we can get recovery on rk3066… “We” of course mean “hard-working genius developers” 🙂

EnvyThisStuff
EnvyThisStuff
12 years ago

I think the firmware will evolve as it has with the MK802, in twists and turns, it just seems to be the nature of these things, and so, we’ll have to deal with it, just as it’s being dealt with for now.

As to LINUX, there is potential in both directions so we’ll have to see which way it ends up, but for now, it’s wishful thinking.

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Have you gotten a chance to try the XBMC build with diceplayer. StaticaDK from xda-developers forum mentioned this special build may allow for HW decoding to 1080p via diceplayer. Sounds promising.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

Diceplayer doesn’t support hardware decoding on the rk3066.
On another note I got a netflix account and it works great on the UG802.

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

@deadhp1
I read with the CX-01, which you also have, Netflix navigation can be sluggish. Sounds like the RK3066 doesn’t have that sluggish navigation issue. That is terrific.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

Netflix navigation is pretty quick with the ug802. I just wish the app supported keyboard controls.

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

@deadhp1
How is the wifi connectivity? I read the CX-01 has wifi related issues. They say the UG802 has an improved antenna design to boost wifi strength and connectivity. What is your opinion?

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

Found these new UG802 RK3066 videos online.

http://youtu.be/MgRqcF5QK5c
http://youtu.be/HJUb9QNGpcM

sola
12 years ago
deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I’ve found that the wifi on the ug802 is much better than the cx-01. It’s even better than my Oval Elephant was.
The cx-01 has major disconnect problems with the wifi. I’m going to try to solder an external antenna onto the cx-01 in an effort to solve it.

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

@deadhp1
There is a post where someone got a XBMC build with mxplayer working. They tested it out on Oval Eleplant and the results sound positive. Might be an option for UG802. Here is the post.

http://www.j1nx.nl/allwinner-a10-xbmc-android-with-external-mxplayer/

EnvyThisStuff
EnvyThisStuff
12 years ago

The sluggishness of the MK802 and the intermittent wifi problems of the MK802 and the heat problems of the MK802 seem to be non-existant on the things we tried on the UG802 so far.

JZ
JZ
12 years ago

@deadhp1
deadhp1, do you know if wifi mouse (i.e HP Wi-Fi Mobile Mouse) works with the ug802?

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I’m not sure….I’ve been using a logitech rf usb keyboard/trackpad and a Rii Mini keyboard/trackpad.
Does that mouse work with android or do you need special software in windows to pair it?

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I’ve been in touch with the manufacturer and working on this for a few weeks now.
A custom version of the ug802 with much higher specs.(2GB ram, 16GB nand, full 1.6GHZ)

The minimum order quantity is very high for a custom version so I’ve had to resort to crowdfunding.
I’ve started an campaign at IndieGoGo.
http://igg.me/p/219501?a=1165461

sao
sao
12 years ago

@deadhp1 That’s exciting news! Unfortunately I already ordered one through the group buy, so I would have to sit this one out… That said, if the one I ordered work well, I would consider getting the improved version if the following issues are addressed: 1) unlocked bootloader 2) ability to boot from sdcard (maybe even from usb drive) 3) proper support of different screen resolutions 4) bluetooth driver 5) proper shutdown (e.g. via the quickboot app) Note: (1) and (2) do NOT require releasing source codes! (3), (4) and (5) do not require releasing source codes. They do require changes… Read more »

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@sao No worries on ordering one. I know how it goes. If you already have one of these then it’s only really worth buying another if you outgrow the current one. But to address your issues: 1) I’m not sure the bootloader is even locked. 2) The ability to boot from the sd card would have to be supported by the SOC rk3066 which I’m not sure it does. 3)When I plug my ug802 into my TV it does give me a list of resolutions to choose from in the settings. The only TV like device I’ve had problems with… Read more »

rb
rb
12 years ago

@deadhp1

Pertaining to the Google Play Store fix you found, did you forwarded that to the manufacturer? Just wondering if that is going to be incorporated into the next firmware update.

On firmware update, is there a website that they provided you to get firmware updates? Have you tried updating the firmware since you got your device?

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I haved pointed the manufacturer in the right direction and sent the fix to them. I haven’t even gotten a reply.
As for the firmware update I was told it would be available at some point. I’d really like to get a downloadable update too.
CWM has been ported to rk3066 tablets, and getting it to work on here should be simple.

A plus side is once we have CWM running is that fixing the Play Store could be done with a quick zip.

Mocha
Mocha
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Any major bugs you encountered with their firmware? Your posts sound pretty positive with the UG802 so it doesn’t sound like there is any other major bugs so far, besides the Google play store issue, which you have already developed a fix for.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I haven’t experienced major bugs at all. It’s been running 24/7 for a while now.
There are a couple of issues but those can be solved with a firmware update.
The main issue other than the Play Store is having a software based power button.
This isn’t an issue if you leave it on all the time.

yoda
yoda
12 years ago

@deadhp1
For your wifi connectivity usage, do you have your UG802 stick behind being a television? And how far away is it from your router? Do you have the free wifi analyzer app installed? If so, what does it show for your wifi signal strength in dBm for your current setup?

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@yoda I have 2 routers at my location. My UG802 is plugged into the back of the tv. First test with UG802: The first one is a n-router located about 55ft away through 2 floors and multiple rooms. -65dBm The second is an old g-pocket router located in the next room maybe 10ft away through 1 wall. -56dBm I decided to break out the cx-01 to test it: First router -73dBm Second router -61dBm I also compared netflix between the 2 units. Netflix on the UG802 looks pretty good and I’ve never had it buffer. Netflix on the CX-01 was… Read more »

Mocha
Mocha
12 years ago
KM
KM
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Have you tried a USB webcam with built in mic with this? That was a major problem with Mk802 that either the camera worked or the mic but they did not work together. Have you tried this combination?

KM
KM
12 years ago


One reason why it is almost the same price as the MK802 II is the fact that this is based on the rockchip chip and the source might never be available and you may never be able to install other os on it (unlike the MK802 II which does allow you to boot other OSes from the external card)

Kim
Kim
12 years ago

The mk802 also got a shutdown revision I think. They said tht they had put in a software based power down. Not sure if ug802 has that

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@Mocha
I have not tried XBMC using MX Player as an external player. I do however use MX Player to play a lot of videos on the UG802.

@KM
I currently don’t have a webcam with microphone. I’m also lacking a usb bluetooth dongle to test.

@Kim
Currently the ug802 doesn’t have a software shutdown button. I have asked the manufacturer to include this in their next firmware update.

rb
rb
12 years ago


It was actually $79 on Pandawill a few days ago. I noticed it dropped from $79 to $69. There are a couple of other online stores based in China selling it for $64.95 and $69.95, so Pandawill may have dropped their own prices to compete with those China based stores. Pandawill itself is also based out of China.

Giggle
Giggle
12 years ago

The below link is suppose to allow XBMC to work with the media player that is the default with the device.  Suppose to allow video playback with hardware decoding by taking advantage of the default media player. The default media player should already support hardware decoding for the UG802 chipset.

https://github.com/Montellese/android/compare/android-rebase-8…external_player

tuavitxinh
tuavitxinh
12 years ago

@deadhp1
I sold MK802II and have UG802 yesterday. The performance of this device is good as your comment but the image output to tv is not clear as MK802II: darkker, redder and like less Color depth (bit). Does your UG802 have same problem like mine?

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@tuavitxinh
I don’t have that problem with my tv.
What resolution are you running at?
Can you adjust your tv’s settings to compensate?

Devlon Macormister
Devlon Macormister
12 years ago

any chance of this getting linux support with video drivers etc?

KM
KM
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Did you get a chance to test a USB webcam (with built in mic) with it? It would be great if you can do that and let us know if it works or not. I have ordered mine and it will be with me in about 10-15 days so really looking forward in finding out what works and what not. Most of the other things are working as you have explained earlier, but it is just the webcam working with Skype/Google+ etc that I am now interested in.

n3wb13
n3wb13
12 years ago

I’m having WiFi issue with UG802. The device can’t get any WiFi access points. Even if I put the WiFi router besides the UG802. Sometimes the WiFi setting can’t be turn on/off and I have to reboot the device.

There are some other people who are having the same problem with me here : http://www.ovalelephant.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1097. Can anybody help me please?

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@KM
I’m still waiting for my webcams and bluetooth dongles to come in the mail. Hopefully today or tomorrow.

userx
userx
12 years ago

@deadhp1
I tried to root. Fallowed your instructions and it did not work for me. How did you connect the device to your PC? Mini usb cable to PC does not detect devise. I used Moborobo but it does not detect the UG802? It did not install drivers. Any tips for getting this rooted. Drivers to install? Thanks

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I received one of my webcams today. It was supposed to have a built in mic, and it does. The only problem is that it expects me to have a line input which I don’t have.
Anyhow tested the webcam on skype, and the webcam works. There is just no sound because the mic isn’t hooked up.
Hopefully the next camera will do the mic over usb.

LXi
LXi
12 years ago

@deadhp1: Can you tell how u managed to replace the framework.jar? I connected the Ug802 via moborobo BUT can’t see it in adb :S

PJ
PJ
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Do you have experience wifi issues with your UG802 if you connect it to a weaker power supply source? You mentioned previously you had Antutu related issues with the UG802 when you had orginally used a weaker power supply source. When you had that Anutu issue with the weaker power supply source, did you also experience wifi issues then?

KM
KM
12 years ago


Cool. anxiously waiting for the review. But did the USB webcam had mic with it? Did the built in mic worked with the USB webcam?

rb
rb
12 years ago

Some folks in this forum are reporting wifi issues with their UG802:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-tv/207613-ug802-mini-pc.html

usr
usr
12 years ago

People in this other forum are reporting wifi issues with their UG802 also:

http://www.ovalelephant.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1097

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I wish I could help you guys with the wifi problem. I just don’t have this problem at all.
Anyhow right now I’m unpacking the rom posted over on oval elephant in order to setup clockworkmod.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

Booting into recovery mode on my ug802 has never worked. It has always just brought up an android with a red exclamation point. I wanted to get clockworkmod running. I’ve been reading this thread http://dragondevs.com/viewtopic.php?f=167&t=414 and http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/37836-cwm-5504-for-rk3066-tablets/ about clockworkmod for rk3066 based tablets by ChristianTroy. So I extracted the parameters file from the oval elephant update.img and placed it into the cwm zip file. This is only a test. I was successful in making a backup. I have not tried to restore or anything else. Arrow Keys work to navigate. I am not responsible if you brick your device!! Below… Read more »

usr
usr
12 years ago

@deadhp1
What is the power output rating on the power supply source you are giving to your UG802. 5V 2 A ?

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I forgot to add at step 4)Install drivers from the CWM folder when prompted.
If windows cannot find drivers then goto Control Panel—>Device Manager—>Other Devices—->Unknown Device.
Right Click and choose Update Driver Software.
Choose Browse my computer for driver software and navigate to where you have extracted ug802_CWM_5.5.0.4.zip. The drivers are located in the drivers directory.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@usr
I’ve been feeding my ug802’s either through a 5V/1A power adapter, a 5V/2A power adapter, or a USB 3.0 port.
It depends which room I’m in.
My 1.6ghz ug802(Dual Droid Stick) crashes on the 5V/1A adapter(not enough power), but the 1.2GHZ models seem to work fine.

usr
usr
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Not sure if you can tell or not, do you know if your 1.2 GHz models had the same firmware installed as the Oval Elephant, since you downloaded the ROM from Oval Elephant.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

I think the downloadable firmware for the ug802 at oval elephant is newer. It has a build date of 9/3/2012.
The firmware on my oldest sample was built 7/13/2012
The most recent I’ve got was 8/29/2012
So the newest so far is the download from oval elephant.

Joe
Joe
12 years ago

The latest review on UG802 posted just now at http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/09/14/ug802-android-mini-pc-unboxing-and-review/ also indicated the reviewer had ran into wifi issues the first few days of testing until the problem somehow disappeared.

tuavitxinh
tuavitxinh
12 years ago

@usr
I change the bundle adapter to samsung galaxy tab adapter 5v-2A and the wifi problem is not change

tuavitxinh
tuavitxinh
12 years ago

My build number is rk30_box_ics_v2.0.120719
rk30sdk-eng 4.0.4 IMM76D eng.hushishuai.20120903.103.449 test-key

--== TechnoMage ==--
--== TechnoMage ==--
12 years ago

Deadhp1
Could you please tell the model number of the usb lan adapter You used? Or provide me with a link?
Thanks in advance.

Steve
Steve
12 years ago
DaveT
DaveT
12 years ago

@all
Here is a nice video of UG802 from Pandawill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrR4bYVUxiE

@tuavitxinh
At the 7:03 mark of the UG802 video posted by Pandawill, they show their settings screen up close. It looks like the same build number as yours. Since they posted the video on 9/14/2012, maybe that is the most current version of the firmware.

deadhp1
deadhp1
12 years ago

@–== TechnoMage ==–
I used model KY-RD9700.
I got this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Lan-RJ45-Card-10-100Mbps-Ethernet-Network-Adapter-/250781080553?pt=US_Networking_Splitters_Couplers_Adapters&hash=item3a63b79be9
except I bought from an auction that has since ended(I got it for $1.99 shipped)

KM
KM
12 years ago

@deadhp1
Just visited the website ugoos.net and found that they have put an update.img file over there at the link

http://ugoos.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=716&Itemid=108

I have not yet received my UG802 from gadgetgreats but can anyone having the stick try and see what is this update.img file? looks like a firmware update as the file size is 262MB. May be they have provided either the original or an updated firmware which fixes a few things. Can anyone with the stick try and check it out?

KM
KM
12 years ago

Also the file name suggests that the firmware was uploaded today (9.17 today’s date). So may be they have come up with a latest firmware. Can you guys give it a quick test and see if it works?

Steve
Steve
12 years ago

@KM
Someone did downloaded the supposedly latest 9/17 firmware. Unfortunately, it has the same MD5 checksum as the 9/3 firmware. Which means it is 100% exactly the same as the 9/3 firmware. They only renamed it to 9/17. Strange they did that. Kinda misleading actually. So the 9/17 firmware still has the wifi issue since it is just the 9/3 version, ony renamed. You can read about the MD5 checksum check here at http://www.ovalelephant.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1115&start=10 .

Steve
Steve
12 years ago

Another UG802 review. This reviewer also ran into WIFI issues.

http://www.iphone-helicopter.com/tag/dual-core-mini-pc-ug802-reviews/

KM
KM
12 years ago

hi Guys, Sorry if this has caused any confusion but since I have not receive my stick so I could not test it myself. Otherwise I could have done that myself and updated you all. It looks like it is the same firmware as the product is shipping with nowadays. Anyhow I have found sort of another version of this stick which has 8GB storage and a female HDMI port. The price seems to be almost identical at around $65. It also suggests there is Jellybean on it. Here is the link. Rest of the specs look the same as… Read more »

KM
KM
12 years ago

a small correction to previous post, it has mini USB instead of micro usb (looked at the pictures after my post) and I have realized that they have not mentioned the GPU at all so it may not have the Mali 400 GPU as in the UG802. It also does not mention any support for full HD videos at 1080p so this one may be without the Mali GPU after all.

tuavitxinh
tuavitxinh
12 years ago

@KM
that is mk808 🙁

KM
KM
12 years ago

@tuavitxinh
Hmm..so it is basically the same as mk808 with a different name? really confusing…

adastest
adastest
12 years ago

where can I find the USB drivers for this device….my adb is not detecting this device.

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