I posted pictures of MINIX NEO X8-H Plus media player a few days ago, and in this post I will report my impressions and testing results for the box, the first Amlogic S812 device I’ve fully reviewed so far, which adds H.265 video decoding up to 2160p, Gigabit Ethernet, and 802.11ac Wi-Fi to the original MINIX NEO X8-H. You can check my previous post for the full specifications of MINIX NEO X8-H Plus.
First Boot, Settings and First Impressions
The package includes both MINIX IR remote, and MINIX NEO M1 RF air mouse. I did not use the infrared remote at all, and instead I mostly used the provided air mouse, together with Mele F10 Deluxe air mouse when I needed to input text, or for comparison. NEO M1 comes with a built-in battery, and Off/On button, and can be used as a standard remote control, or as a wireless mouse. In most cases it works fairly well, but inputting text may be a little cumbersome as you need to use the software keyboard, and I’ve noticed when I scroll several times, for example in Google Play going through my list of apps, its behavior becomes erratic, and frustrating to use. I’m tried to charge the NEO M1 again, and re-calibrate it, but it did not help. I’ve also disconnected the other RF dongles to make sure there was no interferences. The Mele F10 (Deluxe) does not have this problem, so overall the “air mouseness” of NEO M1 isnot as good as the one of Mele air mice.
I’ve connected an Ethernet cable to my Gigabit hub, an HDMI cable, an SD card, a USB hard drive, a USB webcam, and a USB hub with three RF dongles for the two air mice, a wireless gamepad, and a USB flash drive. After connecting the power, you need to press the button to start the device. The boot took a massive 1 minute and 54 seconds, which seems really slow for a recent high-end device. So I removed all USB devices, and boot time decreased to one minute, better, but not really a fast booting beast. For refernce some RK3288 devices boot in 20 seconds with all devices connected.
The status bar is hidden by default, but you can simply pull it up if you need it. As with other MINIX NEO device you can choose between MINIX Metro launcher, or the default Andrid Home Screen as shown above. If you want to checkout the user interface in more details, read my review of MINIX NEO X6, which includes screenshots of MINIX Metro, and a video walk-through.
The resolution was correctly automatically detected and set to 1080p, and the user interface resolution is set to 1920×1080. Although I connected the box to Ethernet, Wi-Fi was selected in the settings, so I had to go into settings before I get an Internet connection. Small detail.
The Settings menu is very similar to NEO X6 with a MINIX green and grey skin with four sub-sections: Network, Display, Advanced and Other, but it adds some extra options highlighted in bold:
- Network – Enable and configure Wi-Fi or Ethernet
- Automatic or manual HDMI resolution: 480p/i @ 60 Hz, 576p/i @ 50 Hz, 720p @ 50/60 Hz, 1080i @ 50/60 Hz, 1080p @ 24/50/60 Hz, or 4k2k 24/25/30Hz/smpte
- Hide or Show status bar
- Display Position
- Start screen Saver (Never, 4, 8 or 12 minutes)
- Remote Control (For Rockchip/MINIX remote app)
- Google TV Remote (for Google TV remote app)
- CEC Control
- Screen Orientation settings
- No Output to USB Audio
- Digital Audio Output (Auto, PCM, S/PDIF pass-through, or HDMI pass-through)
- Dolby DRC settings – On/Off, and DRC mode selection (LINE or RF)
- Other – System Update: Local file or OTA (connects to server OK), Backup; “More Settings”: redirects to standard Android Settings.
4K video output and S/PDIF are extra hardware options supported by MINIX NEO X8-H Plus. DRC stands for Dynamic Range Control, and it aims to improve audio quality in various environments. Here’s an explanation of what it does (Source: Dolby Metadata Guide):
Different home listening environments present a wide range of requirements for dynamic range. Rather than simply compressing the audio program at the transmission source to work well in the poorest listening environments, Dolby Digital encoders calculate and send Dynamic Range Control (DRC) metadata with the signal.This metadata can then be applied to the signal by the decoder to reduce the signal’s dynamic range. Through the proper setting of DRC profiles during the mastering process, the content producer can provide the best possible presentation of program content in virtually any listening environment, regardless of the quality of the equipment, number of channels, or ambient noise level in the consumer’s home.Many Dolby Digital decoders offer the consumer the option of defeating the Dynamic Range Control metadata, but some do not. Decoders with six discrete channel outputs (full 5.1-channel capability) typically offer this option. Decoders with stereo, mono, or RF-remodulated outputs, such as those found on DVD players and set-top boxes, often do not. In these cases, the decoder automatically applies the most appropriate DRC metadata for the decoder’s operating mode.
Most people won’t probably use this, but in case you want to turn it on, I understand you should probably select LINE if you own a 5.1/.1 capable AV receiver, and to RF for other audio receivers / TV. Corrections are welcome.
Google Play Store worked pretty well, and I did not need to side-load any apps for this review. The only apk I installed was Amazon AppStore, in order to play Riptide GP2.
The power button on the side of the box cane be used to power on the device, enter and exit standby mode (short press), and call the power menu (long press) showing “Sleep”, “Restart”, or “Power Off”. NEO M1 power button can only be used for standby mode, as a long press does nothing. Mele F10 Deluxe can only be used to enter standby mode, but not exit it, probably because the power key is an Infrared key on NEO M1, and Mele code is different. You can still power on the device with any remote by clicking on the “soft” power button on the task bar to activate the power menu. It’s not possible to turn on the box with the remote control. NEO X8-H Plus does not overheat. After Antutu 5.3 benchmark, the max. temperature was 38°C and 44°C on respectively the top and bottom of the case, and after 4 races in Riptide GP2, the max. measured temperatures went up to 45°C and 55°C.
MINIX NEO X8-H Plus is fast, and stable. I never experienced slowdowns, freezes, or hang-ups. The only time I felt there may be issue is when doing repeated scroll downs with NEO M1 air mouse, where the mouse pointer did not feel responsive, but this had nothing to do with the device, only the air mouse limitation, as I had no such repeatable issues with Mele F10 Deluxe.
MINIX NEO X8-H Plus came with XBMC 13.3 MINIX Edition pre-installed, and contrary to my review with MINIX NEO X6, I did not install XBMC 13.3.3 Beta MINIX Edition, which supports automatic refresh rate switching, and better support for .ts files, and just kept using the release version (Built on July 28, 2014). So I installed it to give it a try. XBMC user interface renders at around 35 fps @ 1920×1080. I had no problems connecting to SAMBA shares in Ubuntu 14.04 in either XBMC or ES File Explorer. Most videos have been tested with XBMC, but I also switched to “4K MoviePlayer” app to play some 4K videos.
Videos samples from samplemedia.linaro.org, plus some H.265/HEVC videos (Elecard), and a low resolution VP9 video:
- H.264 codec / MP4 container (Big Buck Bunny), 480p/720p/1080p – OK
- MPEG2 codec / MPG container, 480p/720p/1080p – Mostly OK, but some people may feel a slowdown @ 1080p. 480p/720p playback at 24 fps (instead of 25 fps), and 1080p at 20 fps.
- MPEG4 codec, AVI container 480p/720p/1080p – OK, although XBMC reports 720p/1080p video playing at 22 fps instead of 25 fps.
- VC1 codec (WMV), 480p/720p/1080p – OK
- Real Media (RMVB), 720p / 5Mbps – RV8, RV9, and RV10 – OK
- WebM / VP8 – OK
- H.265 codec / MPEG TS container (360p/720p/1080p) – Audio only, and the 1080p video makes XBMC exit.
- WebM / VP9 (no audio in video) – Does not play at all (Stays in XBMC UI).
I wanted to install the “Frequency Switcher” in the Video Add-ons, but all I got was a message saying the platform was not supported. So no automatic refresh rate switching is possible for now, at least with this version of XBMC.
I also played some higher bitrate videos:
- ED_HD.avi – audio only
- big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.avi (1080p H.264 – 12 Mbps) – OK.
- h264_1080p_hp_4.1_40mbps_birds.mkv (40 Mbps) – OK
- hddvd_demo_17.5Mbps_1080p_VC1.mkv (17.5Mbps) – Plays at 15 fps instead of 29.970, and XBMC also reports skipped frames.
- Jellyfish-120-Mbps.mkv (120 Mbps video without audio) – OK
As usually I played high definition audio codec using HDMI PCM output since I don’t have an AV receiver, and all files played perfectly including audio and video:
- AC3 / Dolby Digital 5.1 – OK
- Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 / 7.1 – OK
- TrueHD 5.1 & 7.1 – OK
- DTS-HD MA & HR– OK
Blu-ray ISO are supported. Tested with Sintel-Bluray.iso. 1080i MPEG2 videos (GridHD.mpg & Pastel1080i25HD.mpg) could also play.
4K videos playback is quite a disaster in XBMC, especially since this version of XBMC does not seem to support HEVC:
- HD.Club-4K-Chimei-inn-60mbps.mp4 – OK
- sintel-2010-4k.mkv – OK.
- Beauty_3840x2160_120fps_420_8bit_HEVC_MP4.mp4 (H.265) – Does not even start (stays in XBMC UI)
- Bosphorus_3840x2160_120fps_420_8bit_HEVC_MP4.mp4 (H.265) – Does not even start (stays in XBMC UI)
- Jockey_3840x2160_120fps_420_8bit_HEVC_TS.ts (H.265) – Does not even start (stays in XBMC UI)
- MHD_2013_2160p_ShowReel_R_9000f_24fps_RMN_QP23_10b.mkv (10-bit HEVC) – Does not even start (stays in XBMC UI)
- phfx_4KHD_VP9TestFootage.webm (VP9) – Does not even start (stays in XBMC UI)
- BT.2020.20140602.ts (Rec.2020 compliant video) – Audio only
If you are a regular reader, you may noticed that I added two new videos, one 10-bit HEVC/H.265 sample by NGCodec, and a BT.2020/Rec.2020 sample.
Since most videos did not play, I reverted to 4K MoviePlayer app install in the box which yields to better results:
- HD.Club-4K-Chimei-inn-60mbps.mp4 – OK
- sintel-2010-4k.mkv – “Not supported media”
- Beauty_3840x2160_120fps_420_8bit_HEVC_MP4.mp4 (H.265) – OK
- Bosphorus_3840x2160_120fps_420_8bit_HEVC_MP4.mp4 (H.265) – OK
- Jockey_3840x2160_120fps_420_8bit_HEVC_TS.ts (H.265) – OK
- MHD_2013_2160p_ShowReel_R_9000f_24fps_RMN_QP23_10b.mkv (10-bit HEVC) – Fails to play.
- phfx_4KHD_VP9TestFootage.webm (VP9) – Shows the first image, but get stuck at 1 second.
- BT.2020.20140602.ts (Rec.2020 compliant video) – Plays but with several wide horizontal bluish / purplish bands with some transparency in from of the video.
Please note that XBMC-13.3.3 Beta 6 apparently support 4K playback support for X8-H PLUS, but people also report AV sync issues in the beta version. (I’ve seen that after testing).
I’ve also added one SBS (Side-by-Side) 3D videos to Over/Under 3D videos. My Panasonic TV is not a 3D TV according to the specs, so I can only check if video decoding is working. NEO X8-H appears to handle 1080p well, but can play my 3D 4K video:
- bbb_sunflower_1080p_60fps_stereo_abl.mp4 (1080p Over/Under) – OK, but XBMC reports it playing at 57 fps instead of 60 fps. Hardly noticeable to me.
- bbb_sunflower_2160p_60fps_stereo_abl.mp4 (2160p Over/Under) – Audio only
- Turbo_Film-DreamWorks_trailer_VO_3D.mp4 (1080p SBS) – OK
Most AVI, MKV, FLV, VOB, and MP4 videos could play without A/V sync issues, or noticeable frame dropped. However, I could not play IFO files, only VOB, and I noticed XBMC sometimes report videos are not played at the original frame rate. For example, while playing a complete 1080p video (1h50 / MKV / 3GB) to test stability, I noticed the frame rate oscillated between 22 and 26 fps, instead of 23.970 fps of the video. I’m not sure if this is expected, or improvements are needed. Nevertheless, I had no problem to play the movie fully, but over 14,000 frames were skipped as reported in XBMC live debug log.
Links to various video samples used in this review and be found in “Where to get video, audio and images samples” post and comments.
Network Performance (Wi-Fi and Ethernet)
I transfer a 278 MB file between a SAMBA share (Ubuntu 14.04) and the internal flash using ES File Explorer in order to evaluate network performance of Wi-Fi, repeating the test three times, and averaging results. NEO X8-H Plus support both 802.11n and 801.11ac, so I tested both. The first one with my older TP-Link TL-WR940N, and the second standard with TP-Link TL-WDR7500 (Archer C7). The device averages a disappointing 2.11 MB/s with 802.11n, and a more respectable 3.50 MB/s with 802.11ac.
The actual performance you get may vary depending on the router used, and your environment.
Transferring a 885MB files over Ethernet showed similar performance as other Gigabit Ethernet devices, but this tests is mostly bound by the internal flash performance.
Transferring a file from a FAT32 partition on a USB hard drive to a SAMBA share (SSD drive) was done at a higher 24.58 MB/s
Checking the raw Ethernet performance with iPerf app using “iperf -t 60 -c 192.168.0.104 -d” command line, showed some serious limitations of NEO X8-H Plus (or Amlogic S812), although they can’t really be seen for typical usage:
Client connecting to 192.168.0.106, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 85.0 KByte (default)
[ 6] local 192.168.0.104 port 39357 connected with 192.168.0.106 port 5001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 6] 0.0-60.0 sec 1.26 GBytes 180 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 0.0-60.0 sec 1.67 GBytes 239 Mbits/sec
MINIX NEO X8-H Plus is advertised as “bluedroid″, and after pairing, the first transfer failed for some reasons. Subsequent photo transfers worked just fine.
I skipped Sixaxis Compatibility Checker test, since I was lazy to root the device.
The AP6335 wireless module used in this device is supposed to support Bluetooth 4.0 BLE. So I tested with protocol with Vidonn X5 activity tracker, and successfully connected using its Smartband app, and retrieved my “fitness” data.
Both a USB flash drive and a micro SD card formatted with FAT32 could be recognized and mounted by the system. NTFS and FAT32 partitions on my USB 3.0 hard drive could be mounted and accessed, but not the EXT-4 and BTRFS partitions, as with most devices, the exceptions being Open Hour Chameleon and M-195, which also support EXT-4.
|EXT-4||Not mounted||Not mounted|
|BTRFS||Not mounted||Not mounted|
A1 SD Bench app can test the read and write performance of any storage device in Android, and that’s what i used to evaluate the eMMC and USB NTFS performance. The read speed was 23.83 MB/s, and the write speed 20.06MB/s for NTFS partition in my USB hard drive (mounted in /storage/external_storage/sda1). Good devices with USB 2.0 normally get close to 30MB/s in both directions, so NEO X8-H Plus is a bit of a weak player here. Results well above 30MB/s are only achievable via USB 3.0 ports.
The 8GB eMMC used in the device only achieves 14.27 MB/s (read) and 12.43 MB/s (write), which again is quite disappointing, especially the read speed, for a supposedly high-end device, and this explains the rather slow boot time.
The device are now classified with the total read + write speeds, and NEO X8-H Plus is close to the bottom of the scale.
I could install both Skype and Google Hangouts, but Skype refused to make any calls (nothing happened), even using Skype “Echo / Sound Test Service”. I could make a call successfully with Google Hangouts but something the image was garbled.
I played the three usual suspects: Candy Crush Saga, Beach Buggy Blitz, and Riptide GP2, and all three games worked very well. I played Candy Crush Sage with the air mouse and . Beach Buggy Blitz and Riptide GP2 with Tronsmart Mars G01 wireless gamepad, and both games were very smooth even with settings maxed out. Riptide GP2 advanced settings set all settings enabled and to high, except Shader Complexity was set to low, and Physicals Wakes & Shadow Details were greyed out. Riptide GP2 usually came to a halt after several minutes of play, but it did not happen in this device. It’s however unclear if it’s because of an updated firmware, or Riptide GP2 developers fixed some of the issues.
MINIX NEO X8-H Plus / Amlogic S812 Benchmarks
CPU-Z correctly reports a processor with four ARM Cortex A9 cores clocked between 24 MHz and 1.99 GHz coupled with a Mali-450MP GPU. The model is NEO-X8H-PLUS (n200), the resolution 1920×1080 (240dpi) and the system has 1,605 MB available to Android with 12.48 GB internal storage.
In Vellamo 3.1, the media player gets 792 points for the Metal benchmark, 1,808 points for the Multicore test, and 1,880 points for the Browser benchmark.
MINIX NEO X8-H firmware is extremely stable, and the user experience is smooth, but when you get into performance of individual components like Wi-Fi, Ethernet, eMMC flash, and USB storage the performance is disappointing, especially for an relatively expensive device. XBMC playback is quite good, except for H.265 and 4K, but that’s probably becaue the XBMC version in the current firmware, is not the latest one, and current beta XBMC app looks more promising..
- Firmware is stable, and fast.
- Video Output – Supports 1080p24/50/60 (but not 25/30 Hz), and 4K2K up to 30Hz/SMPTE
- 3D games play without issues.
- Good power handling, although the device can’t be turned on with the remote control.
- Air mouse included in package
- H.264 / HEVC 4K video playback with 4K MoviePlayer app
- USB webcam works with Google Hangouts
- Support forum and community
- Wi-Fi, Ethernet, eMMC, and USB / NTFS storage performance is disappointing for a device at this price.
- USB webcam did not work reliably in Skype
- The remote control can’t power on the device.
- Poor 4K support, and H.265 supported in included XBMC version. (Will be fixed in subsequent XBMC apk updates)
- Relatively slow boot time. 1 minute without USB devices, almost 2 minutes with several USB devices connected.
- Air mouse is not as good as some other product in the market such as MeLe F10 Deluxe, because in some circumstance it may be difficult to control the mouse pointer.
I’d like to thank GearBest for providing the sample for review, and if you are interested in this device you may consider buying from Gearbest for about $160 including shipping [Update: use Coupon MX8HPCN to get it for $149.99]. Other shipping options includes Amazon US, DealExtreme, TinyDeals, GeekBuying, and many others. Prices are about the same for every seller.
Jean-Luc started CNX Software in 2010 as a part-time endeavor, before quitting his job as a software engineering manager, and starting to write daily news, and reviews full time later in 2011.
48 Replies to “MINIX NEO X8-H Plus Review”
As usually I played high definition audio codec using HDMI PCM output since I don’t have an AV receiver, and all files played perfectly including audio and video:
AC3 / Dolby Digital 5.1 – OK
Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 / 7.1 – OK
TrueHD 5.1 & 7.1 – OK
DTS-HD MA & HR– OK
Read more: http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/12/12/minix-neo-x8-h-plus-review/#ixzz3LhE2jTY0
Those test are irrelevant.
You can’t test those audio format on a TV.
Just say DTS/Dolby 5.1 works
You cannot test DTSHD and Dolby TRUEHD on a TV.
As long as people play videos with AC3 and other audio codec via their TV stereo speakers, or other stereo speakers, I’ll keep on testing these, because it shows the system can decode these codecs to PCM.
If somebody who owns an AV receiver can’t even read, or selectively read the review, that’s not my issue.
When/if one day I get an AV receiver, I’ll test: PCM, HDMI pass-through and optical S/PDIF.
there is a lot of cons there considering its price and the fact that it is minix i always thought minix products were least problematic but as you pointed out there is a lot of probs
Not because you are testing a DTSHD/Dolby TRUEHD 7.1 doesn’t means those file doesn’t contain 5.1 format.
Since you don’t have the proper equipment test the files.
Just leave that out of
Because we all know that most of this Android Tv box can decode those format.(DTSHD/TRUEHD)
And you cannot Test 4K media file if you don’t have a 4K TV..
Noooooooo… I really was wishing the S812 being the next media player to replace my aging 1080p/H.264, but at least the current ROM sucks at the obvious next-gen goal of 2160p/H.265. 🙁
The price is a bad joke..
when you decide to include in your blogs the “Paypal donate” ?
So Mike will be happy to become an excellent lender to purchase a 4K TV and AV receiver.
Apart from this…160$ is a lot of money, considering ratio of pros / cons (the major FW improvements are done by Freaktab users not from Minix)
I have a 4k TV and AV reciever and most of CNXSoftwore test are in incorrect.
Time to start Mike’s Android Hi-fi Blog? 🙂
Just helping out.
Your not helping. If you want to help, you can start your own blog for free on google blogger:
Mike…you misunderstood that I wrote.
Re-read with calm my previous post… if you want a correct AV review gift to Jean-Luc a hi-end instrumentation (real 4K with HDMI 2.0 and hi-end AV).
Or just, if you want, as Anon e Gabe said, open your AV blog for testing various STB…remember that you have to invest money.
i did not know that wow i thought minix actually spent some money and had a team who fixed all the bugs. 🙁
Calm down people!
“mike” has a good point but that does not mean that all the reviews here are incorrect or useless.
I think that what Jean-Luc needs is perhaps to say more explicit that when he writes the device “played perfectly” it really means it can “decode perfectly”, but he can not be sure if it really outputs a DTS sound or a 4k video, because he does not have the proper hardware.
I think it’s all down to semantics… hehe
I take this opportunity to make two suggestions Jean-Luc:
1) maybe he can get some devices to people that owns the right hardware and are willing to do the proper tests
2) or, if he does not want to spend money on a AV system, maybe he can do what I sometimes do: be friend with a audio/video shop and take the devices there to test on a AV system and a 4k Tv on the showroom… sometimes the manager and/or the seller man even thank me, because they are also learning and we spend a good time… 😉
I agree with Mike’s comment. The audio tests are not really meaningful. If these tests were done using XBMC, it doesn’t even mean that the device can “decode perfectly” like JotaMG has mentioned. XBMC doesn’t use the hardware audio decoder. All the test can say is XBMC decoded those audio codecs and X8H-Plus output it as PCM!
Regarding Dolby DRC RF mode. It is meaningless on the X8-H Plus. There is no RF output on this device. One can still put it in RF mode and get a highly range limited audio output.
Yes, that’s what the test does:
“I played high definition audio codec using HDMI PCM output since I don’t have an AV receiver”.
If people can’t understand that, I don’t know what else I can say.
Many devices can’t handle these files properly even in XBMC, with audio cuts, and so it gives an idea whether you’re likely to get into issues playing high bitrate videos with these type of audio codec. Sometimes, devices simply fail to decode these audio codecs, such as M-195, but I reckon it’s because it’s using XBMC UI + an external video player.
Your audio testing procedure is fine if your intention is to report on the processing power of the SoC. X8-H Plus has a hardware video and audio decoder. Since XBMC can utilize the hardware video decoder, the video tests are truly indicative of the video playback capabilities of the device. For audio decoding capabilities, the tests should be done with a player that can utilize the hardware audio decoder. The default 4K player and MX player (H/W) can use the hardware audio decoder. Your audio tests will be more useful when you report on the audio codecs supported by the hardware decoder. Just my 2 cents.
If i can get these device for free, i will definitely start my blog.
So all i can do is to help..
If people don’t understand there special hardware that decode each format.
Example: 1-If can’t just Dolby Atmos sound on any AV reciever.
2-You can’t test 4K media on a 1080p TV
If test your testing something make sure you’re accurate not just throwing stuff out there.
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I have a few questions regarding the control of the Minix Neo X8-h Plus.
1) Have someone tested it with the Logitech Harmony Touch (or Harmony Ultimate)?
2) Is it possible to use multiple Wireless Controller (like Xbox One) for playing Emulator Games (f.e. Mupen64)
3) Has someone already found a way of game streaming from Windows PC to Android?
Thanks in advance!
Hi. You should retest this one with the latest firmware, it brings a lot of improvements including Ethernet speed
Looks good, but unfortunately I don’t have the device anymore.
Quick question for you cnxsoft please as I’m confused. Why would a person choose anyandroid box which isn’t the “android tv” version as then Netflix HD app etc doesn’t work as the OS is for a tablet? Why would Minix not choose android tv as the base essentially?
Would something like razer forge with Android TV be better for HD apps at least?
Android boxes can run most Android applications, Android TV boxes will only run a subset of these applications, but as you noted they may run these better, for example with HD support for netflix.
I think you need to sign some partnership with Google for Android TV, AFAIK there’s no open source version (TBC).
Currently on the market appear HIMEDIA Q5IV, I want to ask various points between HIMEDIA Q5IV and X8-H Plus is what?
Does anyone help me?
I recently purchased a Minix x8. After a couple of weeks there is a server problem. I keep getting a no connection message although the wifi is connected.
bit of a novice wondered if anyone had any input please
Genesis does not always play
sky sports news does not open
concert archives don’t work
utube karaoke on Mikeys karaoke don’t work but sunfly does
sometimes it says script not found or Url
any suggestions please
recently purchased the Minix X8 H Plus sorry forgot to add this
I have brand new box with amlogic S812 , M8S+ , Lollypop 5.1.1
and have problem that i can use only xbmc Gotham 13.x to look my IPTV (LiveTV) with links what are working with .TS (ending)
Any idea how can i use new KODI ??? New KODI dont play on my box this .TS files
Maybe try SPMC 16 instead -> http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/03/14/spmc-16-1-1-kodi-16-android-fork-adds-bluray-3d-iso-playback-hd-audio-pass-through-and-other-improvements/
CNX hello, maybe you can help me. My X8-H drops to black screen randomly, over and over. Every drop lasts 1 to 2 seconds, even when is not playing video. When it recovers, acts like a new connection (TV screen shows the initial info of a new connection: HDMI 1, 1080p, etc …). Youtube freezes several seconds randomly in some videos, but audio still running.
I’ve tried everything: I’ve reinstalled firmware several times (updated to the last release), checked over and over the settings of TV and Minix, changed the HDMI cable, no games, no root, the few apps installed are from the official PlayStore, TV and Minix always are plugged to an AC stablizer, what’s wrong??..
This problem exists from two months after the purchase, at that time it was less frequent, now is deeply UNBERABLE. I feel scammed.
Minix barely answered me at that time (basically they told me my problem is “weird” since it wasn’t a massive matter), I was one of the first customers who bought this device.
Any suggestion please?
It looks like an HDMI driver issue. Maybe MINIX NEO X8-H and your TV don’t get alone. Do you have the same problem is your use another TV? If not, then it could confirm the driver issue, if yes, then maybe you have a faulty device. I don’t really have any tips on how to fix this. I had my own problems using HDMI with an ODROID-XU3 Lite board which I fixed by changing some settings specific to the board manually. Later the company decided to buy the TV in order to investigate, and found the timings were different, and updated the driver accordingly.
So this type of issue, is not trivial to resolve.
CNX thank you so much for your help. I’ve been testing and you are right, in fact I did this test by myself when the issue appeared but for some reason I was so focused in Minix and not in my Sharp TV. Now I know the issue is a matter of HDMI driver, because the device is working fine in a Panasonic 42″. Funny, I was thinking the most size of the TV panel, the most power issues, I was blaming to the size of my Sharp and to the Amlogic SoC too.
Take a look: http://www.minixforum.com/threads/hdmi-flickering-issues.2899/
It’s clear I am not alone with this matter, but sadly is also clear they didn’t solve it properly.
At this point, I guess I must whine and whine and whine for a solution, meh.. I am going for the Ugoos UT4.
Minix always answers, ok I know, but actually they fix customers issues? NO, few times they do, so bye Minix.
Thanks CNX, you are the best! (if there is something better than Ugoos UT4 around the 150$ please make me know)
That kind of bug is difficult to fix since you need the TV model with the bug, and they can’t buy all TV models on the market… If you have an HDMI switcher, if might be an idea to put it between the box and your TV.
Ugoos UT4 should be OK, although Rockchip is not always the best for video playback or quality.
I’m not sure you’ve read my recent post where I explain what people should look for when purchasing a TV box, and listed some options above $100, and below $100 -> http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/04/25/whats-the-best-android-tv-box/
I’ve read the thread on MINIX a bit more, and OP fixed issue was “fixed” after he installed an AV receiver. Not a low cost solution though 🙂
CNX mate, guess what? My Sharp’s Aquos Link was deactivated all of this time, so I setted it ON.. and voilá!, now my Neo X8-H is running fine, no more flickering! and smooth reproduction 🙂 … CEC is a b*tch (sorry, you know, I am euphoric).
This was so helpful to me, to understand CEC is not only to turning on/off the devices connected to my TV: https://source.android.com/devices/tv/HDMI-CEC.html
Well, before say “thank you so much CNX, nice to meet you” please could you clear for me some questions?
* Wetek Core’s OS is Android TV or regular Android like 5 or 6? Widevine 1 cert allows Youtube HD content too? or just Netflix?
* If I need my Android box just for streaming Youtube, PopCornTime and Netflix, do I really need 2Gb RAM? or 1Gb is enough? and the Amlogic SoC is better than RK for this purpose?
* Which wireless air mouse + keyboard would you recommend me? I need a deivice with great quality because in my home, everybody uses it to navigate.
That’s quite odd. You’d think that if HDMI CEC is disabled it would not mess with the box. Anyway, glad you found a solution.
1. WeTek is regular Android 5.1 with optional Leanback launcher (as found in Android TV devices). Widewine Level 1 should work with other apps too. But I’m not sure about YouTube HD. Better ask or check on their forums.
2. Amlogic is usually better than Rockchip for video playback. quality, less issues, and better coded support. Usually 1GB RAM is fine, but some people claim 2GB works better. The only improvement I see with 2GB is that apps are less likely to be killed in the background, so they appear to start faster.
3. I’m using MINIX NEO A2 Lite for review, and I’m satisfied except underscore is missing, and for typing passwords with letters, numbers and special characters, you’ll have to switch between modes quite often. MeLE F10 Deluxe is a little better in that respect, but doest not feel as nice in the hands. Some people prefer larger keyboard and instead use Logitech K400
😉 Thank you so much CNX, without you, I’d never had suspicions about the HDMI driver of my TV.
Rikomagik MK706 looks good http://www.gearbest.com/mice-keyboards/pp_104419.html but i can’t find reviews… I will keep searching. Thanks again for all for your help, you’re the best!
Glad you could resolve your issue.
The problem was not necessarily with the HDMI driver of your TV, but likely due an interoperability issue between your TV and the box HDMI drivers. Anyway, the result is the same, and it’s good that you got it working.
CNX please one more question, is it right to expect hd/fhd Netflix and Youtube, if I buy a Windows TV Box like Voyo3 or Minix Z64 or Wintel? I mean, IEdge give us great image and the Windows10 apps as well… I know user interface is not the best, but I can handle it, I prefer image quality over everything.
If so, which brand and model would you pick? (it’s just for streaming with good quality)
I don’t know about Netflix HD/FHD in WIndows 10, but YouTube definitely works, as I’ve used in several TV box, and you can see a demo in Voyo V3 mini PC review @ http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/02/17/voyo-v3-intel-atom-x7-z8700-mini-pc-review-with-windows-10/
Voyo V3 has one of the best cost/performance ratio in the Windows 10 devices I’ve tested, but it only supports WiFi, so if you prefer Ethernet, you’d need another model. MeLE PCG01 TV stick, and MeLE PGC03 mini PC are also pretty good.
The main differences (in terms of performance) between Windows 10 mini PCs are storage and cooling, and the rest is pretty much the same between models.
Maybe I am seeing what I want to see, but seriously, Netflix in Windows 10 is STUNNING. Look at this: https://www.reddit.com/r/netflix/comments/3jfg36/windows_10_app_lets_you_stream_all_tv_shows_in_hd/
Well, you are the authority in this field, so right now, I don’t know what to think, I guess I must investigate.
Thanks! =) (I will pick Voyo3)
I’ve never tested it myself, simply because I don’t subscribe to Netflix. But somebody else tested it in a Cherry Trail mini PC @ http://hometheatrelife.com/tronsmart-ara-x5-review-windows-10-cherry-trail/
and it seems all good:
Great! thank U CNX!