Intel NUC Roadmap 2018 – 2019 – Gemini Lake, Coffee Lake, and Kaby Lake H

Intel’s new generation of Gemini Lake and Coffee Lake processors is expected to launch at the end of this year, beginning of next, and this morning I received Intel’s NUC roadmap that gives a good idea of what’s coming in 2018 and 2019.

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Intel plans a whole new generation of NUCs from “Hades Canyon VR” NUCxi7HVK model with a 100W Intel Core i7-xxxxK Kaby Lake-H processor to “June Canyon Celeron” NUC7CJYH model with a 10W Intel Celeron J4005 dual core “Gemini Lake” processor. All in all a total of 7 new NUCs should be launching in 2018.

Let’s have a closer look at the cheaper and lower power Gemini Lake models, starting with “June Canyon Celeron” NUC7CJYH specifications:

  • SoC – Intel Celeron J4005 dual core GLK processor (10W TDP)
  • System Memory – 2x DDR4-2400 slots for up to 8GB RAM
  • Storage – M.2 SSD slot, SDXC slot
  • Display – 2x HDMI 2.0a ports supporting up to two independent displays
  • Audio – front stereo headset, rear stereo out / TOSLINK
  • Connectivity – Gigabit Ethernet (TBC), 802.11ac 1×1 WiFi and Bluetooth 5

Intel “June Canyon Pentium” NUC7PJYH model has exactly the same specifications, except for the Intel Pentium J5005 quad core processor with 10W TDP. Both models are expected to launch in Q1 2018.

An interesting aspect of the more powerful NUCs based on Coffee Lake/Kaby Lake H processors is that they all come with one or two ThunderBolt 3 interfaces, and support Optane memory.

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I think that should be Pentium J5005, no? You’ve even written about it before.

Tommi
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J4005 sounds like downgrade to J4205, J5005 sounds cool. I hope they will get fanless (10w, shouldn’t be impossible)

M.2 slot and finally DDR4 2400 😮

Rahul
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This is interesting. There were some reports in some german sites that hades caynon will support external graphics. Kinda two chip solution? or is it via external graphics card?

Tommi
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https://m.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Intel-Gemini-Lake-fuer-Mini-PCs-mit-zweimal-HDMI-2-0-3836639.html

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Pentium J5005 4 2,8 GHz
Celeron J4105 4 2,5 GHz
Celeron J4005 2 2,7 GHz

I wonder where they got those values, but if this is true then pretty nice boost to turbo clocks. IMO default clock also should be improved somehow, and GPU (9Gen LP 3SS) mean 500/505 HD graphics again?

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Marvin
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Any possibility the “KBL-H + dGFX” is indeed “Palo Alto”?
An AMD dGPU with MCM package, and 4GB of HBM

Rahul
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Could be an AMD….and that would very very very interesting…

AtomPlay
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And there will be N5000 mobile processor, according to your earlier post “Intel Pentium Silver N5000 “Gemini Lake” Notebook Shows Up in Benchmarks”

Other than “Processor Multi-Media”, aka same GPU with just small boost to turbo clocks maybe? CPU in general has been improved according to those leaks.

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Very confusing, doesn’t VP9 10-bit mean same as profile 2? So why does it still uses Gen 9 GPU, instead of 9.5 (added support for profile 2 VP9)

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Also found that GLK support eDP 1.4, which is one difference with Gen9 and Gen9.5 HD GPU.

Tomm
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Gemini Lake delayed.

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DM

Perhaps you could help us too by asking your NUC sales/engineering contacts to fix critical security issues in current model products.

3½ weeks after critical vulnerabilities were announced in Intel ME (Intel-SA-00086), there’s still no patches from @Intel themselves for half of NUC series, even latest models:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000026230/mini-pcs.html

Half the reason I bought Intel, was for this very scenario, expecting they might at least clean up their rubbish promptly. If we can’t even trust Intel to patch their own products, when vulnerabilities are found in weak security critical software that they’ve been warned about for YEARS, then it’s time to seriously invest in alternatives.

Intel, if you’re going to keep shipping this crappy Intel ME rubbish, then at very least, GIVE US BACK HARDWARE TPM, not this exploitable software PTT crap.

Also, drop in an extra USB controller, so we can at least use VT-d (e.g. like Device Guard) to separate security critical input devices (e.g. keyboards & mice) from totally untrustworthy external devices and complex driver code.