Intel NUC7CJYSAL “June Canyon” Gemini Lake NUC Mini PC Review with Windows 10 and Ubuntu

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The hardware specification for mini PCs has recently evolved past the traditional fixed amount of memory and storage. Now mini PCs are shipping with SODIMM slots allowing RAM expansion and a variety of M.2 or SSD combos providing flexible storage options. Recent mini PCs are also coming to market with desktop processors rather than mobile processors because there has been a gradual acceptance of the necessary inclusion of a small internal fan. In doing so not only is this addressing the key limiting factors for mini PCs but it is also redefines the very definition of a mini PC.

Until recently Intel NUCs (Next Unit of Computing) were seen as small-form-factor personal computers primarily because they consisted of the traditional motherboard with a processor, included removable RAM and storage and were enclosed in a case with an external power supply. They were also sold as kits meaning they were essentially the ‘barebones’ ready to be build with separately purchased memory, storage, and operating system. However, Intel have also now introduced products called ‘Intel NUC Mini PCs with Windows’ which are fully configured and ready to work out of the box as they are pre-built and include all the required hardware and software.

Whilst there has been a gradual convergence between the hardware specifications of mini PCs and NUCs the final distinguishing factor has now also converged: namely price. Conventionally mini PCs have been low-priced reflecting the low-specs of low-power and low-configurability. But addressing the ‘low’ points has come at a cost with the configurable mini PC now at the top of the $100 to $300 price range for Intel processor-based mini PCs. And the top price is what coincidentally and perhaps unsurprisingly is the cost of the latest Intel NUC mini PC, the ‘Intel NUC 7 Essential Mini PC – NUC7CJYSAL with Windows 10’.

Intel kindly provided me with a pre-production model of the NUC7CJYSAL which has allowed me to look at how it compares to others in the evolving mini PC market. I’ve looked at performance and handling under both Windows and Ubuntu and the following is what I’ve encountered.

Being a NUC, the physical design is likely to be familiar to most. It consists of a small approximately 4.5″ square case about 2″ tall with a distinctive front panel that includes the power button and a couple of USB ports with the rest of the ports including two HDMI (2.0a) ones at the rear:

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The specifications, which refer to the NUC7CJYSAL as NUC7CJYS, include:

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It is worth noting that the NUC7CJYSAL is part of the NUC ‘June Canyon’ product range that features the mini PC together with barebone kits and a board using either the Celeron J4005 dual core processor or the more powerful Pentium J5005 quad core processor from the new Gemini Lake processor range:

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The NUC7CJYSAL uses the Celeron J4005 dual core processor and the decision to use this rather than the Celeron J4105 quad core processor was to keep the overall price down (noting that the ‘Recommended Customer Price’ is obviously not the internal cost to Intel). Price becomes a significant factor when purchasing large numbers of the device for digital signage where the key graphics processing factor is the same and the gain from the additional processor cores is not required.

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The other key point to note is the NUC7CJYSAL comes with 32GB eMMC with pre-installed Windows 10 Home together with space and connectors for an SSD. The eMMC is not included in the barebone kits or board.

The device I’ve tested is a pre-production model so the Windows 10 OS although an OEM install is unactivated. Production models will come activated.

So starting with Windows a quick look at the hardware information shows it is aligned to the specification:

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and that the 4GB of memory is DDR4:

As usual I ran my standard set of benchmarking tools to look at performance under Windows:

The results are interesting when compared to other Intel mini PCs:

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It may be argued that no direct comparison can be made because there are so many different variables: quad vs dual core, HD 500 vs HD505 vs UHD 600, DDR3 vs DDR4, eMMC vs M.2 etc.

Broadly speaking however the NUC7CJYSAL performance is similar or better than the N4200 and J3455 devices with the exception of CPU comparisons where the quad cores out perform its dual core processor.

Interestingly the Passmark 9 result is somewhat baffling due to the low mark for 3D Graphics. It was only having performed all the testing that I noticed this peculiarity so I decided to re-run the Passmark 9 test on the NUC7CJYSAL which by that stage had Windows running on an internally installed SSD. The new marks were:

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which when compared with the marks from an N4200 device:

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further highlight how unusual the result is. The individual test scores are similar however the overall ‘mark’ for 3D Graphics is substantially different. Looking at the previously published formula for calculating the marks, I plugged in all the individual values only to get both much closer mark scores but ones that were totally different to the reported marks when running the test:

Using the same formula but plugging in the actual test marks for calculating the overall PassMark rating calculation did match:

so it has raised a doubt over the accuracy and validity of this particular performance test.

Moving on I then shrunk the Windows partition and created new a 10 GB partition so I could install and dual boot Ubuntu.

Initially I used the same standard (and now EOL) Ubuntu desktop 17.04 ISO as I’ve used in previous tests however the display was unusable as the kernel didn’t support the display driver required for the new Intel GPU. So I decided to try Ubuntu 17.10.1 and whilst the display was fixed I had neither Wifi nor Bluetooth. Upgrading the ‘linux-firmware’ together with a ‘modprobe btusb’ got me Bluetooth but still no WiFi. However both were fixed using the daily development Ubuntu ISO. I next tried Ubuntu 16.04.4 but again no Wifi nor Bluetooth. Further testing concluded that regardless of the ISO release for a functioning Ubuntu, I needed as a minimum the 4.15.0-10 ‘kernel’ and 1.171 ‘linux-firmware’ which are both available from the ‘bionic’ repositories (where ‘linux-firmware’ is now at 1.172). This means for ‘Live’ booting from an Ubuntu ISO written to a USB the choice is currently only the unreleased development ‘Bionic Beaver’ ISO for fully functioning display, Wifi and Bluetooth OOTB. However I also found that the ‘intel_gpu_top’ application was broken at the moment making the development release unsuitable for my testing.

As a result I decided to respin an officially released Ubuntu 16.04.4 ISO using my ‘isorespin.sh’ script and upgrade both the kernel and firmware packages. As my script until now did not include the ability to upgrade the bootable kernel from an upstream release I first had to make the necessary enhancements. Next I wrote a ‘wrapper’ script that would pull in the relevant packages from an upstream distribution repository and upgrade the specified ISO as part of respinning. I only chose to use Ubuntu 16.04.4 for testing purely because of the familiarity of using Unity over GNOME with my testing applications. The command I used to respin the ISO was:


which created an ISO called ‘linuxium-ubuntu-16.04.4-desktop-amd64.iso’ that I simply wrote to a USB using ‘dd’. The scripts used are ‘isorespin.sh’ and ‘wrapper-linuxium-install-bionic-kernel-and-firmware-on-16.04.4.sh’ with further details available on my blog.

Once installed and running I first ran some basic commands to look at the hardware in more detail:


Running my usual suite of Phoronix tests showed similar performance results to Windows with the device in general being comparable or better than similar equivalently priced devices.

First I looked at the NUC7CJYSAL in comparison with the base models of Intel Compute Sticks and Compute Cards (i.e. excluding comparison with the core m3/m5 devices):

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And then against similar Intel based mini PCs:

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I also ran a comparison of the benchmarks after I had installed Ubuntu Mate 18.04 Beta1 on an internally installed SSD:

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which shows an overall performance improvement from using an SSD for storage which is more likely to represent the build scenario that most Ubuntu users choosing this device would use.

Ubuntu’s Octane result was also slightly better than in Windows:

Next I looked at real-world usage by playing videos under Windows using both Edge and Chrome browsers. Under Edge both 4K@30fps and 4K@60fps videos played without issue:

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Under Chrome 4K@30fps videos were fine:

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however 4K@60fps videos had the occasional dropped frame but were still watchable:

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In contrast playing videos in Ubuntu was a similar story to other Intel processor-based mini PCs with 4K@30fps being unwatchable:

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but okay when played at 1080p:

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Unfortunately both 4K@60fps and 1080p@60fps were unwatchable using Chrome on Ubuntu with the lower resolution still resulting in a 50% loss of frames.

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Playing videos using Kodi on Windows worked for VP9 codec encoded video but used software for decoding resulting in high CPU usage and higher CPU temperatures:

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whereas a H.264 codec encoded video used hardware to decode without the preceding overheads:

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as did videos encoded with H.265 or HEVC:

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Because the default installation of Kodi on Ubuntu 16.04.4 was only version 15.2 I again looked to ‘bionic’ and installed version 2:17.6. This resulted in Kodi on Ubuntu using software to decode all three codecs and resulted in judders and the occasionally frame freeze:

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Some H.265 or HEVC videos were unwatchable experiencing a 10% loss of frames for each second of play:

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with others were better at juddering along:

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I found that on Ubuntu Mate 18.04 Beta1 if I installed the ‘i965-va-driver’ I could at least get hardware acceleration for H.264 codec encoded videos using the Video Acceleration API:

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And also for some H.265 or HEVC videos:

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However on Ubuntu 16.04.4 even installing and then upgrading the ‘i965-va-driver’ (1.7.0-1) to the version from ‘bionic’ (2.0.0+dfsg1-1) did not result in any hardware acceleration.

As can be seen the software decoding maximises the CPU usage in Ubuntu resulting in higher internal temperatures. The NUC7CJYSAL includes a near silent fan and under Windows it is just possible to hear when it runs at higher speed however under Ubuntu it is very quiet. So quiet I started to wonder whether it was in fact running.

I tried accessing the fan through software but the best I could do was only be reassured that there was a fan:

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I also tried using the Ubuntu Mate 18.04 Beta1 I had installed to SSD but again all I could do was prove that there was a fan and that it was working as having stressed the CPUs they cooled down sufficiently fast to indicate active cooling:

To triple check that cooling was indeed working under Ubuntu I ran a 1080p video in Chrome for 20 minutes and the internal temperature remained under control averaging around 60°C with the external temperature not exceeding 38°C.

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Audio (unsurprisingly) works on Windows:

and (thankfully) on Ubuntu without issues:

including when headphones were plugged in to the rear audio jack:

Network connectivity throughput was measured using ‘iperf’:

which resulting in consistently very slow download speeds for 5.0 GHz which given the newness of the Intel Wireless-AC 9462-D2W module may indicate that further tuning on Linux is necessary.

Power consumption was measured with an SSD installed as I consider this the likely usage configuration:

  • Powered off – 0.9 Watts
  • BIOS* – 6.5 Watts
  • Boot menu – 6.3 Watts
  • Idle – 5.6 Watts (Windows) and 4.9 Watts (Ubuntu)
  • CPU stressed** – 11.7 Watts (Ubuntu)
  • Video playback*** – 9.3 Watts (4K in Windows) and 9.2 Watts (HD in Ubuntu)

* BIOS has a full graphical user interface (see below)
** Initially there is a high power demand before reducing to a constant rate.
*** The power figures fluctuate so the value is the average of the median high and median low power readings.

The results show similar power consumption to comparable mini PC devices using ‘Desktop’ processors.

The BIOS features a full graphical user interface and includes the ability to monitor the fan speed and various temperatures together with features like screen capture:

As mentioned I installed an SSD which I did by unscrewing the base of the device and carefully lifting it out and sliding in the SSD into the drive bay on the underside. The cables connecting the drive bay and the motherboard are not very long so for reference the base will not completely detach which is why care is advised.

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Once the base is screwed back into the device and the power and cables reconnected it is straightforward to install both Windows and Ubuntu from ISOs written to USBs.

For the sake of testing completeness the SSD I installed was an older model Samsung 650 120GB SSD which is still nice and quick compared to newer models:

Overall the device performs very well. If installing Ubuntu, I’d recommend only considering the upcoming 18.04 release to obviate any driver compatibility issues. A key selling differentiator for the NUC7CJYSAL is that Intel offers both hardware and software support with a full set of drivers available from their website including updates to the BIOS. Furthermore the device is covered by a three (3) year warranty period. For the price, it compares well with similarly priced mini PCs and the support commitment enhances the product’s appeal both for commercial and personal use.

The launch of a NUC with this specification is a pivotal point in the development of mini PCs. Whether intentionally or otherwise it is going to challenge the dominance of Chinese manufactures in the mini PC market place. The introduction of well-known computer companies offering small-form-factor mini PCs provides a wider choice which together with the more robust support will be welcomed by the risk averse consumer.

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Eversor
Eversor
6 years ago

Tks for the review. Interesting performance from this chip. Hopefully it is sustained performance and not just a 30s Turbo.

piotrasd
piotrasd
6 years ago

Please try this alpha build of LibreELEC with latest intel drm-tip kernel https://www.sendspace.com/file/aqqj2p 😉

cnv
cnv
6 years ago

I’d also be interested in the LibreElec test!

Linuxium
6 years ago

LibreElec Testing Update: The latest version of LibreELEC 8.2.4 fails to boot from a ‘Live USB’ with the message ‘failed to start xorg. is your GPU supported?. Replacing the kernel with the one from the ‘piotrasd’ link above boots without issue and works. All my test videos that failed previously now played with hardware acceleration using the Video Acceleration API (i.e. all of the VP9, H.264 and H.265/HEVC encoded videos). I also installed the YouTube video add-on and both 4K@60fps and 4K@30fps played and were watchable. Separately on Ubuntu I tried to install the ‘bionic’ series ‘Nightly Build’ of Kodi… Read more »

theguyuk
theguyuk
6 years ago

It will be a fudge, but remember Kodi allows use of a external video player. So if you find video Player that works use that in Kodi.

paul M
paul M
6 years ago

thanks very much Linuxium for this review. It seems that linux on Gemini Lake is right at the bleeding edge.

Hopefully by the time the chips have been widely adopted by the usual miniPC/tv-box makers, the kernel support will be much better, and there will be reliable video acceleration and good wifi.

IanC
IanC
6 years ago

32GB in built isnt worth the chips its stored on.

Also Intel HD Graphics are terrible.

Paul M
Paul M
6 years ago

if you’re going to run Windows, no, 32GB isn’t enough. I have a miniPC with 32GB, and even using external storage wasn’t enough to let Windows install the 1709 update.

Linuxium
6 years ago

I find it easier to perform a fresh install of the latest MS ISO (as that includes the 1709 update) rather than fight the 32GB limitation MS has imposed due to cheap license restrictions.

linuxgeex
linuxgeex
6 years ago

: When using Ubuntu, if you want the best graphics performance then enable the oibaf ppa.

https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers

This brings in the latest Xorg, Mesa, and llvm (used by Mesa for shaders/NIR/OpenCL)

Another option is to enable the intel graphics stack published at 01.org

Linuxium
6 years ago

I did some further testing with the oibaf ppa however the best results were using the LibreELEC build from @piotrasd

6 years ago

Weirdly, the email I got from the subscription to this message greeted me as Linuxium instead of my own handle… I can forward to you if you’d like for debug/analysis.

Further, the response I got to this response was to my handle. Apparently it is sending out emails addressed to the person who posted the comment regardless of who the recipient is.

Linuxium
6 years ago

And I’ve just got the first line of your comment sent to me in an email starting with ‘Hi linuxgeex’!

piotrasd
piotrasd
6 years ago

you need to upgrade mesa, vaapi etc. in that LE I made more changes than only kernel, what you can see in logs 😉

piotrasd
piotrasd
6 years ago

at this version you can play Netflix add-on with quality up to 1080p 😉

Ryan
Ryan
6 years ago

I was wondering, do you have any idea what will be in the box of a retail version? How do you think they will supply the windows installation disk/usb?

Linuxium
6 years ago

I believe you get the NUC, power brick, VESA mount and some pamphlets (like a quick guide, safety and regulatory disclaimers). Windows is pre-installed and no disk/USB recovery media is supplied as you can download an official ISO from Microsoft and then use the Intel driver support software to download and install any missing drivers.

Ryan
Ryan
6 years ago

Ok that is great news, any idea what the recovery partition is for then?

Linuxium
6 years ago

Whilst there is a Windows recovery partition no external CD disk or USB recovery media is supplied. You are still better off with the official ISO from Microsoft written to USB as recovery media as it will be more up to date with all the patches and then using the Intel Driver & Support Assistant to download all the necessary and latest drivers.

Name
Name
6 years ago

Nice review and kudos for the BIOS video, every NUC reviews on the internet should start with that.

I do have a question about the UEFI, is it a 32 bit or a 64 bit one on the NUC7CJYSAL ?
(To know that in Linux, just type: “cat /sys/firmware/efi/fw_platform_size”)

Pro tip:
If you have a 32 bit UEFI but do have a “CSM” or “Legacy Mode”, you can still install any Linux without having to modify the iso with Linuxium or use REFInd.

Linuxium
6 years ago

It is 64-bit.

Definite
Definite
4 years ago

I know I’m a year late to this article, but I just bought this unit and are having nothing but trouble. When I play anything on Youtube in Chrome or Firefox, even at 480p, there is heaps of lag. Doesn’t appear to be using hardware acceleration. When I play videos in MPC HC, they all lag, no matter what the resolution. In VLC, SD videos play OK, but anything 4K is very laggy, and looks like it’s playing at 50% speed. I have just bought this and done latest windows updates, Intel driver updates, latest Chrome, Firefox, VLC and MPC,… Read more »

Linuxium
4 years ago

In Windows I find Edge works the best for video playback with Chrome being the worst. I also find the latest Kodi (as downloaded from kodi.tv) is better at hardware decoding than other apps. You could try turning off the latest ‘Intel’ mitigations in Windows (https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4073119/protect-against-speculative-execution-side-channel-vulnerabilities-in) [or in Linux (mitigations=off for kernel 5.1.13 and newer)] just to see whether they are the cause.

Definite
Definite
4 years ago

Thanks. Edge seems much faster. I still can’t play 4K 60 fps but at least 25 fps seems mostly OK, just a bit jittery sometimes. I’ll try kodi and see how it goes, may be better. VLC was crashing sometimes.

Definite
Definite
4 years ago

Kodi seems to play 4K H264 & H265 @ 25 fps with no jitter which is good. Still VP9 @ 60 fps doesn’t work well with GPU hitting 100%, but I guess can only expect so much from a budget machine. Thanks for your help.

Paul M
Paul M
4 years ago

just as a possibility, try forcing h264 codec on youtube, because other codecs might not be hardware accelerated? this extension might do the trick:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/h264ify/aleakchihdccplidncghkekgioiakgal?hl=en

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